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Re: Installed a horseshoe on my '73
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:58 pm
by sloop_john_b
ilan wrote:Actually the high-gain had more clank. The horseshoe sounds fuller and more bassy than the high-gain. Now I can solo it and get a solid usable sound, something I never did with the original pickup. Output is about the same, which surprised me. Actually it sounds closer to the high-gain in my son's '86 (which is one of the best sounding Rics I have ever played). If I want a clanky treble pickup I have my Shadow.
Thanks Ilan! I may have to bite the bullet and do it.
Re: Installed a horseshoe on my '73
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:17 pm
by Tarrbot
I've meant to ask but would one of these work with a 5 string?
I hesitated on the last batch because I didn't know the answer to this and didn't want to buy something I didn't need (and take away from someone who might need it when I didn't).
Re: Installed a horseshoe on my '73
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:53 pm
by johnallg
sloop_john_b wrote:Lookin' sharp Ilan!
I would be curious to hear your thoughts on the new HS versus the Higain in your '86. I have been considering dropping a horsey into my v68 but am a bit fearful that it will change it "for the clankier".

John, leave out the .0047uF cap in line with it and it will be pretty bassy.
Re: Installed a horseshoe on my '73
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:54 pm
by johnallg
Tarrbot wrote:I've meant to ask but would one of these work with a 5 string?
I hesitated on the last batch because I didn't know the answer to this and didn't want to buy something I didn't need (and take away from someone who might need it when I didn't).
Not sure there is enough coverage from the 4 magnetic poles to give you coverage of all 5 and have them even. I'm thinking not.
Re: Installed a horseshoe on my '73
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:24 pm
by Johntheson
Kevin,
That's one of the most beautiful Ric bodies I have ever seen. Beautiful.
John
Re: Installed a horseshoe on my '73
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:57 pm
by weemac
johnallg wrote:Tarrbot wrote:I've meant to ask but would one of these work with a 5 string?
I hesitated on the last batch because I didn't know the answer to this and didn't want to buy something I didn't need (and take away from someone who might need it when I didn't).
Not sure there is enough coverage from the 4 magnetic poles to give you coverage of all 5 and have them even. I'm thinking not.
No, the four pole horse will not work on a five string. There was at some point a few alnico slug five string pickups made that (If you could find one) be adapted to sit in the shoes.
I have made some steel shoes that I fitted to a Hi-gain five string pickup to see if it did impart some "horsieness" to the sound (this was on my ex S5). I believe that it did add some sag and compression to the sound and refined it somewhat. These shoes would also work on a regular Hi-gain as well... It's well worth a try if you are handy with an oxy torch and a file.....
Eden.
Re: Installed a horseshoe on my '73
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:51 am
by doctorwho
Thanks for that picture, Ilan! That should help me figure out what will be and what won't be coverd by a HS on mine.
The HS looks great on your bass!

Re: Installed a horseshoe on my '73
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:12 pm
by ilan
Took the bass to rehearsal today. Plugged into the drummer's Ashdown bass rig, flat. I ended up playing 10 out of 11 songs with the RIHS solo'ed. This never happened to me before - I usually solo the neck toaster.
Re: Installed a horseshoe on my '73
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:51 pm
by jps
I take it you don't have the .0047 cap in line?
Your drummer owns the bass amp?
My drummer owns a mid '70s Precision bass, maybe the two of them ought to get together.

Re: Installed a horseshoe on my '73
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:06 am
by ilan
Yes, the cap is long gone.
Our drummer runs the rehearsal studio, so he owns all the gear in it, including the bass amp.
Re: Installed a horseshoe on my '73
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:57 pm
by ricmic
I have a V63 and run both tone pots all the way up. I find that on mine, neither pup sounds "great" soloed,but together they sound excellent. Mark
Re: Installed a horseshoe on my '73
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:52 am
by rickcrazy
Re-issue HS pickups have the kick of an angry mule hehe!

However, predictably enough being wound to roughly 10.0/12.0 K they sound somewhat "muddier" than the good, old high-gains.
Re: Installed a horseshoe on my '73
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:02 pm
by FretlessOnly
I wish I had the same luck with a RIHS. I put one on my '72 and I find the output balance from string to string to be very uneven. Plus they are very sensitive to a heavy hand (not in a good way). To each their own, I guess.
But, I'm really hoping to find an older high gain to put in there. Would I be able to use a high gain bobbin and keep the shoe from my RIHS?
Re: Installed a horseshoe on my '73
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:48 pm
by coolhandjjl
Isn't the holy grail of hi-gains the one with the greenish top and what looks like a portion of a fingerprint on one side of the top?
Re: Installed a horseshoe on my '73
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:05 pm
by ajish4