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Re: How long did Mike Rutherford play Ric basses in Genesis?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:46 pm
by jps
He always played guitar, perhaps he had a premonition and then there were three?

Re: How long did Mike Rutherford play Ric basses in Genesis?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:51 pm
by BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS
don't forget his great 4001s sound on genesis live lp.

Re: How long did Mike Rutherford play Ric basses in Genesis?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:23 pm
by armybass
The guitar he played was a Ric too. There is footage of them live in 72 on some kind of TV special where he is playing either a 360 or 360 12 string while playing bass pedals..then he switches over to the 4001.

Re: How long did Mike Rutherford play Ric basses in Genesis?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:42 pm
by Grey
armybass wrote:The guitar he played was a Ric too. There is footage of them live in 72 on some kind of TV special where he is playing either a 360 or 360 12 string while playing bass pedals..then he switches over to the 4001.
He's playing it on the cover of "Genesis Live" with his 4001 behind him.

Re: How long did Mike Rutherford play Ric basses in Genesis?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:22 am
by Baker69
johnallg wrote:
Baker69 wrote:Was it ever documented anywhere as to why Mike went away from using Ric Basses?
Wasn't it because he started also playing guitar and got the doubleneck?

The early doubleneck he had was a hybrid of a Ric Bass and Ric guitar "joined" together wasn't it?

The next double neck was again a hybrid - a Ric 12 string and a Microfrets Bass.

Re: How long did Mike Rutherford play Ric basses in Genesis?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:14 am
by jps
Grey wrote:He's playing it on the cover of "Genesis Live" with his 4001 behind him.
That's what they looked like the first time I saw them. 8)

Re: How long did Mike Rutherford play Ric basses in Genesis?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:30 am
by Baker69
jps wrote:
Grey wrote:He's playing it on the cover of "Genesis Live" with his 4001 behind him.
That's what they looked like the first time I saw them. 8)
I still have the album (stored away with all my other vinyl collection!) - Probably scratched and very crackly after all the times I played it. A classic album that got me into Genesis (and thankfully Rics!) 8)

Yes I do recall the Ric in the background on it's stand. Mike is stting down playing a 12 string I think. This is when they had all the gear behind the curtains isn't it?

Re: How long did Mike Rutherford play Ric basses in Genesis?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:18 pm
by Billsbro
What a band they were back then! And always a good show. I cherish all the times I saw them.
The thing that was always so cool about Mike R was how he came across: never flashy or posing but always playing amazingly good and accurate bass lines and pedals with that look. And the most classic image I have of him live is playing in half dark/half light stage lighting, head tilted back slightly, and his eyes closed. I have quite a few slides of him in this mode. The guy is very much underrated. His acoustic guitar (especially 12-string) is lovely. Good vocals and great writing skills.
Extraordinary musician.

Re: How long did Mike Rutherford play Ric basses in Genesis?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:18 pm
by Grey
Here's a scan from my copy of the Live LP.

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Re: How long did Mike Rutherford play Ric basses in Genesis?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:43 pm
by armybass
Cool! I just got Genesis Live off of iTunes last night.... my picture not so big... Thanks

What a great album. I am only a week into Genesis and I am really into the early PG era. Who woulda thunk it.

Re: How long did Mike Rutherford play Ric basses in Genesis?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:53 pm
by jps
armybass wrote:..I am really into the early PG era..
Was there another era? :mrgreen:

Re: How long did Mike Rutherford play Ric basses in Genesis?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:38 pm
by harrek
jps wrote:
armybass wrote:..I am really into the early PG era..
Was there another era? :mrgreen:
Well the 4 man era was also just as good I think. :)

Re: How long did Mike Rutherford play Ric basses in Genesis?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:53 pm
by jps
harrek wrote:
jps wrote:
armybass wrote:..I am really into the early PG era..
Was there another era? :mrgreen:
Well the 4 man era was also just as good I think. :)
The times I saw them without Peter, they had Bill Bruford twice, and Chester Thompson the last time I saw them. :wink:

Re: How long did Mike Rutherford play Ric basses in Genesis?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:27 pm
by harrek
jps wrote:
harrek wrote: Well the 4 man era was also just as good I think. :)
The times I saw them without Peter, they had Bill Bruford twice, and Chester Thompson the last time I saw them. :wink:
My first Genesis concert was for the Wind & Wuthering tour. So I never had the chance to see them with Gabriel.

And I do have to say that I really liked And Then There Were Three and Duke as well quite a lot. In fact, I'll listen to
them before I listed to The Lamb. To me The Lamb is my least favorite release of the Gabriel era! :shock:

Re: How long did Mike Rutherford play Ric basses in Genesis?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:37 pm
by johnallg
Duke, a MOST underrated album.