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Re: So, may we introduce to you...TheBeatlesGear.com

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:30 pm
by beatboy77
No worries fellas, all mods are 100% reverseable and we have saved all the original parts. Lets not forget, this guitar is without doubt well known due to its association to Harrison. Changing some plastic around as a tribute to him in no way deminishes this guitar's history. It is just another chapter in its life :D

Josh

Re: So, may we introduce to you...TheBeatlesGear.com

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:44 pm
by egosheep
If a C-series guitar will pass for this project(in the case of the 325), then why in the world would you make the investment to buy much less MODIFY such a historic instrument? It makes no sense at all.

Re: So, may we introduce to you...TheBeatlesGear.com

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:55 pm
by beatboy77
egosheep wrote:If a C-series guitar will pass for this project(in the case of the 325), then why in the world would you make the investment to buy much less MODIFY such a historic instrument? It makes no sense at all.
We aimed for vintage pieces whenever possible. When #1 became available, we acquired it. We feel it is a beautiful tribute to George and The Beatles. Keep in mind, all mods are 100% reverseable. It is just another chapter in the guitar's history. The guitar itself has a history of mods. When Arden owned it, she had the "R" tailpiece added. We changed that back to original. We now own it and made mods which made total sense to us :)

Josh

Re: So, may we introduce to you...TheBeatlesGear.com

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:07 pm
by opticnerve
IMO, that guitar has it's own place in history & deserves it's own platform.

Re: So, may we introduce to you...TheBeatlesGear.com

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:29 pm
by collin
opticnerve wrote:IMO, that guitar has it's own place in history & deserves it's own platform.

+1

Let's not assume that people are going to line up around the block to check out a guitar that.....none of the Beatles ever used?

The only people who would be really interested in that are people into guitars, and I would venture to say they'd be equally (if not more) impressed at the fact that it's the first Rickenbacker 12-string and that it was kept all-original.

I bet you the Smithsonian or the RnRHoF wouldn't turn a screw on anything in their collection to tart it up as something it's not.
The fact that you're willing to do that speaks volumes about you and your partner, Josh. Reversible or not...

Re: So, may we introduce to you...TheBeatlesGear.com

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:40 pm
by fabandgear
Just got this painting by some guy named DaVinci. I've always liked blondes, so... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: So, may we introduce to you...TheBeatlesGear.com

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:50 pm
by Grey
beatboy77 wrote:Keep in mind, all mods are 100% reverseable.
Let me be as genuine as possible when I say, that this is fantastic. The issue is, however, wether or not the mods will be reversed or if the modifications will be left in place indefinitely. Surely any other vintage 360/12 would have gotten the job done, did it really have to be the first Rickenbacker 12 string? Its historic signifigance outweighs its attribution to one band, however influential that band may have been.

The first Rickenbacker 12 string guitar has no more in common with The Beatles then any other 360/12 that came after Harrisons, why go through the hassle and the expense to modify a guitar that has a place in history all its own?

Re: So, may we introduce to you...TheBeatlesGear.com

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:48 am
by collin
Great points, Erik!

Re: So, may we introduce to you...TheBeatlesGear.com

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:51 am
by leftybass
opticnerve wrote:
IvanMunoz wrote:

after all Rickenbacker did invent the electric guitar and the electric 12 string,
Sorry, but Danelectro came out with the electric 12 string in 1961.
Historically, we can go even further back to about 1954-55, when a 12-string called the 'Stratosphere' was made....Jimmy Bryant played it on records he did with Speedy West....some of the most hair-raising music I've ever heard.

Re: So, may we introduce to you...TheBeatlesGear.com

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:58 am
by 8mileshigh
collin wrote:Let's not assume that people are going to line up around the block to check out a guitar that.....none of the Beatles ever used?

The only people who would be really interested in that are people into guitars, and I would venture to say they'd be equally (if not more) impressed at the fact that it's the first Rickenbacker 12-string and that it was kept all-original.

I bet you the Smithsonian or the RnRHoF wouldn't turn a screw on anything in their collection to tart it up as something it's not.
The fact that you're willing to do that speaks volumes about you and your partner, Josh. Reversible or not...
I'd have to agree. Not wishing to be negative, but to me, I guess I don't really see the point either? I assumed the big reveal, would be the Arden 12 being featured in a TV show or Film or maybe there was going to be some sort of celebrity tie-in, something a little more high profile for that particular historic instrument. It's a nice collection, but somehow not as exciting as I expected the reveal to be. But I hope you're pleased Josh. I appreciate you can't please all of the people all of the time. To us passionate Rickenbacker fans, I guess in lots of ways the instrument is held in higher regard than the artist?

Re: So, may we introduce to you...TheBeatlesGear.com

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:01 am
by leftybass
beatboy77 wrote:No worries fellas, all mods are 100% reverseable and we have saved all the original parts. Lets not forget, this guitar is without doubt well known due to its association to Harrison. Changing some plastic around as a tribute to him in no way deminishes this guitar's history. It is just another chapter in its life :D

Josh
Frankly Josh, this guitar has no association with The Beatles. It is like saying a 1958 Hofner 500/1 has an association with The Beatles, or a Combo 850 does because it has somewhat the silhouette of a 325.

If the goal of this project was to have an accurate Beatle-guitar collection, you would have been better off to keep looking for a very-rare Fireglow 1964 360/12 O.S....it was most-certainly made with Harrison's influence on the market.

Then, your statement about a Rickenbacker 12-string having a Beatle-association would ring true. It doesn't with this guitar.

Re: So, may we introduce to you...TheBeatlesGear.com

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:47 am
by egosheep
leftybass wrote:Historically, we can go even further back to about 1954-55, when a 12-string called the 'Stratosphere' was made....Jimmy Bryant played it on records he did with Speedy West....some of the most hair-raising music I've ever heard.
Didn't he use an alternate tuning on that guitar, where the string pairs were tuned in 4ths or 5ths?

Re: So, may we introduce to you...TheBeatlesGear.com

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:15 am
by leftybass
egosheep wrote:
leftybass wrote:Historically, we can go even further back to about 1954-55, when a 12-string called the 'Stratosphere' was made....Jimmy Bryant played it on records he did with Speedy West....some of the most hair-raising music I've ever heard.
Didn't he use an alternate tuning on that guitar, where the string pairs were tuned in 4ths or 5ths?
Yes. I remember hearing that record for the 1st time----it was mind-blowing to hear stuff like that being recorded before the days of Rock n' Roll.

Re: So, may we introduce to you...TheBeatlesGear.com

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:59 am
by stsang
fabandgear wrote:Just got this painting by some guy named DaVinci. I've always liked blondes, so... :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: I have to say that's kind of how I feel about it too! (with all due respects, of course) :wink:

Re: So, may we introduce to you...TheBeatlesGear.com

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:01 am
by stsang
leftybass wrote:If the goal of this project was to have an accurate Beatle-guitar collection, you would have been better off to keep looking for a very-rare Fireglow 1964 360/12 O.S....
...and possibly not quite as expensive too?