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Re: how many 4002 fl were made

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:06 pm
by iiipopes
ilan wrote:
iiipopes wrote:only the bridge pickup is in relatively the same place as a Fender Jazz. The neck pickup is more where a P-bass pickup is
Even better.
Indeed.

Re: how many 4002 fl were made

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:01 pm
by woodyng
I have a laredo that was modified,with the pickups relocated to 4002 spec. Of course it has the hb1's,not the 4002 pickups,and also the ABM bridge instead of the standard 4001/2/3 unit,and no ebony fretboard....but the point is you can get pretty close to the 4002 sound with the pickups moved. I had an '83 walnut 4002 for about 11 years,so i have a pretty good point of reference for the comparison.....
Another chance for me to wish for a fretless cii in public..... 8)

Re: how many 4002 fl were made

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:28 am
by ilan
woodyng wrote:but the point is you can get pretty close to the 4002 sound with the pickups moved. I had an '83 walnut 4002 for about 11 years,so i have a pretty good point of reference for the comparison
Excellent. And a possible cheaper way to do it without a re-top job or even a refin could be to install a mudbucker in the front pickup route just to cover it...

Re: how many 4002 fl were made

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:57 am
by T.A.R.
Very interesting thread! 8)

Re: how many 4002 fl were made

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:48 am
by iiipopes
Zombie alert: to follow up on my posts 8 years ago, and as I stated in another thread recently, after years of contemplation I would like to modify my earlier posts, because I now think the pickup positions on a 4002 were derived from a J-bass. If you move the bridge on a J-bass up 3/8 inch and the nut down 3/8 inch to take into account the difference in the scale lengths between the two basses, the centers of the pickups between a J-bass and a 4002 line up.
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Re: how many 4002 fl were made

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:21 am
by admin
woodyng wrote:I have a laredo that was modified,with the pickups relocated to 4002 spec. Of course it has the hb1's,not the 4002 pickups,and also the ABM bridge instead of the standard 4001/2/3 unit,and no ebony fretboard....but the point is you can get pretty close to the 4002 sound with the pickups moved. I had an '83 walnut 4002 for about 11 years,so i have a pretty good point of reference for the comparison.....
Another chance for me to wish for a fretless cii in public..... 8)
Woody, how about a few photos?

Re: how many 4002 fl were made

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:24 am
by admin
iiipopes wrote:Zombie alert: to follow up on my posts 8 years ago, and as I stated in another thread recently, after years of contemplation I would like to modify my earlier posts, because I now think the pickup positions on a 4002 were derived from a J-bass. If you move the bridge on a J-bass up 3/8 inch and the nut down 3/8 inch to take into account the difference in the scale lengths between the two basses, the centers of the pickups between a J-bass and a 4002 line up.
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Scott, it is interesting what 8 years of reflection and additional life experience can do. Now to track down the evidence.

Re: how many 4002 fl were made

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:46 am
by morrow
I remember when Ginger got her bass . Never though about it being rare or unusual . Later a natural 4002 came up for sale at Gigstreet , our local vintage shop . $1200 , I passed because I thought I already had all the Ric I could want . One of my few regrets .