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Re: "God is Dead?" Black Sabbath

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:33 pm
by marc61
I will be seeing them live tonight and follow up with bass report for Geezer fans :)

Re: "God is Dead?" Black Sabbath

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:48 pm
by byu
The bass actually belonged to Glenn Hughes who traded it to Geezer. He only used it once on the Never Say Die tour. More info here viewtopic.php?f=11&t=61973&hilit=Glenn+Hughes

Re: "God is Dead?" Black Sabbath

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:07 am
by cassius987
byu wrote:The bass actually belonged to Glenn Hughes who traded it to Geezer. He only used it once on the Never Say Die tour. More info here viewtopic.php?f=11&t=61973&hilit=Glenn+Hughes
There's at least a couple of American tour films with a Ric bass sharing the stage with Geezer from that period. One's dimly lit, the other's broad daylight. I don't recall the exact locations or dates but I believe it was in support of Paranoid.
Kopfjaeger wrote:
Now that I remembered to look at this thread when I had some earbuds around, I have to say that I totally hear what you're hearing, Sepp, but it actually reminds me more of a Fender or Peavey T-40. The upper-mid clang is there but the bottom is kind of missing. The signal really sits in the low mids which is very Fender-ish to my ears whereas many recorded Rics have more of that bottom end thunder only found elsewhere on basses like the Hofners and EB-0s, etc. Maybe that's the big staying power of the Ric, instead of doing one of these sounds (clang or thud) it kind of merges both in a happy middle.

EDIT: Here's an example of what I mean about Ric tone. Paul's is, to my ear, very nearly a modern Ric "out of the box".


Re: "God is Dead?" Black Sabbath

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:03 pm
by Lefty4001
cassius987 wrote:
byu wrote:The bass actually belonged to Glenn Hughes who traded it to Geezer. He only used it once on the Never Say Die tour. More info here viewtopic.php?f=11&t=61973&hilit=Glenn+Hughes
There's at least a couple of American tour films with a Ric bass sharing the stage with Geezer from that period. One's dimly lit, the other's broad daylight. I don't recall the exact locations or dates but I believe it was in support of Paranoid....

Hi Joshua. Can't agree more with you on Paul D'amour's sound that he got with his CS4001. His harmonics sing and I am chasing that tone myself. (Any idea if he still uses the CS in Feersum Endjinn or does he use an ATK?)

But Geezer used that bass for the 1978 "Never Say Die" tour. I put a link in this thread earlier that has 10 well shot videos and the 4001 is front and center. I should say I put a link to a link of a thread I started a couple years back and it is easy to miss.

Here is it again. Hope you guys enjoy. Praise Iommi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWIxOL5j ... C3143D2053

Re: "God is Dead?" Black Sabbath

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:18 pm
by cassius987
Lefty4001 wrote:Hi Joshua. Can't agree more with you on Paul D'amour's sound that he got with his CS4001. His harmonics sing and I am chasing that tone myself. (Any idea if he still uses the CS in Feersum Endjinn or does he use an ATK?)
The 4001CS makes an appearance in a Feersum Ennjin video for "Fishing Grounds" IIRC (unfortunately overdubbed with bunches of clips from some sexploitation film so it kind of breaks up the song), and several parts sound like his tone on Undertow, so it's a very strong possibility that his 4001CS is on the record. I don't know if he uses an Ibanez ATK, but he's been known to use an Ovation Magnum and a Stingray besides the Ric. I suspect now that he's done so much work in film scoring he probably vacillates between several different basses as the different songs call for them. Some of the tracks on Feersum Ennjin sound like they have more than one bass guitar, as well.

/off-topic diversion

Re: "God is Dead?" Black Sabbath

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:49 pm
by Lefty4001
http://m.bassplayer.com/article/geezer- ... rns/152051


Thanks. Back on topic. Geezer answered it all recently in bass player magazine. Used Glenn Hughes bass for one gig, the show that got taped. Too funny.

Re: "God is Dead?" Black Sabbath

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:05 pm
by rikk
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cassius987 wrote:Geezer has used a 4001 on and off since the late 1970s. He got it from Roger Glover.
Geezer actually got the bass from Glenn Hughes. Both Deep Purple bass players.


Here are pics:
Glenn 1973
Glenn 1973
Geezer in 1978
Geezer in 1978

Re: "God is Dead?" Black Sabbath

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:25 pm
by cassius987
Lefty4001 wrote:http://m.bassplayer.com/article/geezer- ... rns/152051


Thanks. Back on topic. Geezer answered it all recently in bass player magazine. Used Glenn Hughes bass for one gig, the show that got taped. Too funny.
I remember reading that interview but I've seen video of him playing the Ric at another, totally different show, though it could easily have been on the same tour.
rikk wrote:Geezer actually got the bass from Glenn Hughes. Both Deep Purple bass players.
Oops, I gotta read up on Deep Purple a bit more I guess. I'm ashamed to say I'm still not very familiar with their music.

Re: "God is Dead?" Black Sabbath

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:08 am
by marc61
Saw the Black Sabbath show at PNC Arts Center in NJ. While it was amazing, Geezer used exclusively Lakland :(

Re: "God is Dead?" Black Sabbath

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:55 am
by cassius987
marc61 wrote:Saw the Black Sabbath show at PNC Arts Center in NJ. While it was amazing, Geezer used exclusively Lakland :(
I'm sure it still sounded quite good!

Re: "God is Dead?" Black Sabbath

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:09 pm
by geofio
A definate ric emulation going on, don,t sound like a ric bass being used on the recording.

Re: "God is Dead?" Black Sabbath

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:46 pm
by psychomatthias
I believe Geezer used a Rick one time. He borrowed it from Glenn Hughes, or Glenn gave it to him... I'm not sure which... for this show:

Re: "God is Dead?" Black Sabbath

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:50 pm
by Colonel Sanders
cassius987 wrote: When I'm at GC and noodling away on the Fenders from time to time I feel more at home on the Ps.
Yep. Absolutely agree with you here. Unless you put dual coil Nordstrand PU on your Jazz, which will bring also in P territory if you use the neck pickup.

Personally, I feel at home with a P.

Re: "God is Dead?" Black Sabbath

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:35 am
by psychomatthias
I don't like P bass necks. However, some of the bass players I greatly admire are/were P bass guys, like Geezer, Steve Harris, and John Wetton when he was in King Crimson.

Re: "God is Dead?" Black Sabbath

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:03 am
by rikk
cassius987 wrote:
Lefty4001 wrote: Oops, I gotta read up on Deep Purple a bit more I guess. I'm ashamed to say I'm still not very familiar with their music.
Purple is a great band. Incredibly diverse in their musical spectrum. Psychedelic, classical, hard rock, funk, even a bit of country.... just about anything. So many players have gone through.