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heinpete wrote:

Lefty4001 wrote:In action. Bass interlude is at 6:15


http://youtu.be/j1-o03lzVIk?t=1m25s

...from sound wise, this could be acchieved with any other Bass as well... No need for a Rick

I, too, wish the sound quality of the video could be better, but that's not what you mean. So, I'll politely disagree and say you are wrong. Next time any of his projects are in your area, go stand in front and enjoy. In fact, Al's tone is a great combination of that up on the neck finger style of playing and those Rickenbacker bass electronics (and amps that can project that). I had read an interview with Geezer and he said that's how he got his fat tone. It certainly works, doesn't it? If you can't "hear through" the distortion, sorry. There is alot of talk on this forum about the "Rickenbacker Tone," but it's not all McCartney and Squire. It's all over the place, but Al's sound for the past 20+ years is one of THOSE tones.

I posted this for those, like me interested, but especially because (1) that Paul W bass is fantastic and (2) it's owner is a forum member.

Al, apologies. We don't know each other and I'm too old to be a fan-boy, but usually it's neutral at worst in here. What you do and how you do it is the right path and it's wonderful. Looking forward to seeing OM this spring.

Lefty4001 wrote:

heinpete wrote:

Lefty4001 wrote:In action. Bass interlude is at 6:15


http://youtu.be/j1-o03lzVIk?t=1m25s

...from sound wise, this could be acchieved with any other Bass as well... No need for a Rick

I, too, wish the sound quality of the video could be better, but that's not what you mean. So, I'll politely disagree and say you are wrong. Next time any of his projects are in your area, go stand in front and enjoy. In fact, Al's tone is a great combination of that up on the neck finger style of playing and those Rickenbacker bass electronics (and amps that can project that). I had read an interview with Geezer and he said that's how he got his fat tone. It certainly works, doesn't it? If you can't "hear through" the distortion, sorry. There is alot of talk on this forum about the "Rickenbacker Tone," but it's not all McCartney and Squire. It's all over the place, but Al's sound for the past 20+ years is one of THOSE tones.

I posted this for those, like me interested, but especially because (1) that Paul W bass is fantastic and (2) it's owner is a forum member.

Al, apologies. We don't know each other and I'm too old to be a fan-boy, but usually it's neutral at worst in here. What you do and how you do it is the right path and it's wonderful. Looking forward to seeing OM this spring.

Thank you John. And thank you Paul W. The 4080/6 will be on both the new OM and Sleep albums. It's been a dream to have one from the day I heard Exit Stage Left and when Ric stopped production on them in 92' it seemed forever unattainable. New chapter begins, gotta practice guitar now. Forward.

...Al, I've seen quite a few of your YT vids and appreciate your sound and style...would like to hear you playin that with other basses(e.g. Thunderbird, Roadstar,...) for comparison ? But Pauls piece of art is just purdy!

heinpete wrote:...Al, I've seen quite a few of your YT vids and appreciate your sound and style...would like to hear you playin that with other basses(e.g. Thunderbird, Roadstar,...) for comparison ? But Pauls piece of art is just purdy!

Try any Guitar Center if you want to hear those other basses. Good luck!

Alberto wrote:

heinpete wrote:...Al, I've seen quite a few of your YT vids and appreciate your sound and style...would like to hear you playin that with other basses(e.g. Thunderbird, Roadstar,...) for comparison ? But Pauls piece of art is just purdy!

Try any Guitar Center if you want to hear those other basses. Good luck!

...I know how Ricks sound in comparison to other basses. Your sound with OM is very distincive however, the interesting thing would be your sound with your set and a different bass? Is the distortion and overall sound different? I doubt your set and sound is able to differentiate between various basses? ... But this might not be an issue at all for you...Geddy's sound is also nearly identical whether he uses a Rick or a Jazz bass...

I'm still in the camp of the fingers of the player makes most of the sound of the player... the touch is all important! Certain basses will have their 'sound' but lets face it.. McCartney, Squire, Lee, Rick James, Gibb, Glover.... (you get the idea) all essentially playing a similar instrument make quite a different sound. And if they all played the same Martin acoustic bass it would sound different... I'd bet you'd be able to pick out who was playing the instrument without looking.

BTW - Great live video... not bad sound considering.... I enjoyed it!

ram wrote:I'm still in the camp of the fingers of the player makes most of the sound of the player... the touch is all important! Certain basses will have their 'sound' but lets face it.. McCartney, Squire, Lee, Rick James, Gibb, Glover.... (you get the idea) all essentially playing a similar instrument make quite a different sound. And if they all played the same Martin acoustic bass it would sound different... I'd bet you'd be able to pick out who was playing the instrument without looking.

BTW - Great live video... not bad sound considering.... I enjoyed it!

Thanks Tom. For sure bassist, bass, and the amplifiers/cabinets all combine to make the sound/experience/transmission. When Geddy switched to Fender, Steinberger and Wal, we were all no doubt still amazed by his great bass playing and innovative bass lines but if Farewell to Kings and Hemispheres were recorded with Wal or Steinberger I doubt we'd be here on the forum. The bass tone on all the early Rush albums really inspired me to practice and get a real bass.

I've worked for a long time to get the sound I have and am happy with it. Time to write a song!

Great to have you here, Al, and thanks again for the photo. It is perfect for the lead in the 4003 chapter!

bassduke49 wrote:Great to have you here, Al, and thanks again for the photo. It is perfect for the lead in the 4003 chapter!

Thank you Paul. Happy to be here and it's an honor to be included in your book!!

Alberto wrote:

heinpete wrote:

Lefty4001 wrote:In action. Bass interlude is at 6:15


http://youtu.be/j1-o03lzVIk?t=1m25s

...from sound wise, this could be acchieved with any other Bass as well... No need for a Rick

Really? No need for a Rick? There is NO other bass that sounds like Rickenbacker. Thanks.

Al: would you consider adding your instruments to the registry?

aceonbass wrote:So.......Since that "4080/6" was indeed scratch built, then how does it differ legally from any of the other scratch built "Ricks' out there?

Given Paul's close relationship with RIC I suspect that there would be some arrangement to legitimise the build.

aceonbass wrote:So.......Since that "4080/6" was indeed scratch built, then how does it differ legally from any of the other scratch built "Ricks' out there?

details details details.

http://studio-california.com/section/37 ... itars.html

"In addition to the "usual" crop of restorations and refinishes to factory colors and specifications, I've recreated two hollow-bodied 4005 basses, one four string, and one eight, using the parts and serial numbers from original "donor" 4005s that were too far gone to properly restore. Additionally, I've converted a vintage 4001 into a one-of-a-kind double neck 4080/6 with yards of checkerboard binding and a built-from-scratch wiring harness with Ric-O-Sound."