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Re: 4004 Laredo jet info
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:03 pm
by woodyng
jps wrote:I had a 2004 Cii that I bought new; it has a neck that is larger in all dimensions (not sure about the nut width, though) than the current necks on 4004 models.
I would've really liked that bass! (And neck)
My favorite necks are my '04 Laredo,and '04 Cii,they were produced at opposite ends of the year,and even those 2 necks are somewhat dissimilar.
Re: 4004 Laredo jet info
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:57 pm
by jps
woodyng wrote:I would've really liked that bass! (And neck)
My Cii is the one that I sold to Chris Pappas who sold it to Mark Gilbert (who turned it into a 5 string with his weird location of the 5th tuning key at the cresting wave of the headstock) who in turn sold it to Brian Crisman who sold it to Paul Boyer who sold it to ??? You could have bought it somewhere in between all that!
Re: 4004 Laredo jet info
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:57 am
by edski
When I was getting my custom built, I measured a lot of necks from a lot of basses. The differences between my 75 4001 and '04 Laredo were not huge. The Laredo is a little wider at the join to the body, the nut widths were essentially identical (within less than a millimeter), and the 4001 was about 1 mm thinner than the Laredo.
Of course, those "minor" difference do feel huge to our fingers.
Re: 4004 Laredo jet info
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:32 pm
by jps
Profile makes a bog difference in feel, too.
Re: 4004 Laredo jet info
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:45 pm
by edski
jps wrote:Profile makes a bog difference in feel, too.
No doubt - the 4001 is a "D" profile to the 1st fret; the Laredo transistions to a "C" at about the 4th fret.
Re: 4004 Laredo jet info
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:48 pm
by jps
edski wrote:jps wrote:Profile makes a bog difference in feel, too.
No doubt - the 4001 is a "D" profile to the 1st fret; the Laredo transistions to a "C" at about the 4th fret.
We wouldn't want to get too bogged down in the details, however!
Re: 4004 Laredo jet info
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:21 am
by woodyng
I think my 4004's have a D-minus profile....
Re: 4004 Laredo jet info
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:19 am
by aceonbass
Pre 2012 4004's necks are about 1/4" wider where they meet the body, which is why they make great 5-string conversions.
Re: 4004 Laredo jet info
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:53 am
by edski
jps wrote:We wouldn't want to get too bogged down in the details, however!
Designing a custom guitar is nothing if not for details. And more details. And "wow, I never thought of that!". And "what are you talking about?". And more details...
It was a worthwhile effort, however, as I like this bass far more than my old J bass (just don't like the thin nut width and the 3/8" string spacing at the nut) and it does look good.
Re: 4004 Laredo jet info
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:28 am
by ram
aceonbass wrote:Pre 2012 4004's necks are about 1/4" wider where they meet the body, which is why they make great 5-string conversions.
Dane, don't forget 8 string conversions....
a '93 4004L