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Re: Hmmm ...Fireglo
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:36 pm
by thx1955
henry5 wrote:thx1955 wrote:aceonbass wrote:The neck volume pot has been replaced. There is a non original white jumper wire bypassing the bass cut cap. The tone caps were usually orange Spragues with different insulation on the leads. Ya, someone's been in there all right.
Hi Dane,
I figured that, it dosen't look like factory quality work, and I've also had that confirmed by a factory source.
I'm think that maybe I should replace the whole harness with a new factory one which includes the "push-pull" pot
Thoughts ?
Jim, get Dane to make you a period correct harness. Way better than a stock modern one. He can even add the push/pull. That's what's going in my '68.
Good idea, thanks for the suggestion, what would say are the differences in the two, Pot values, tolerances ? Cap values and tolerances ??
Re: Hmmm ...Fireglo
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:52 pm
by aceonbass
Although pot and cap values are the same in my harnesses for vintage Ricks, tolerances are much closer.
Re: Hmmm ...Fireglo
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:05 pm
by thx1955
aceonbass wrote:Although pot and cap values are the same in my harnesses for vintage Ricks, tolerances are much closer.
Thanks Dane ... PM sent.
Re: Hmmm ...Fireglo
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:38 pm
by jps
thx1955 wrote:Jeffrey,
Would you happen to have a picture of your wiring harness. Looking at mine I'm surprised at the "mess" the soldering looks like it was done by a blind man, and I have to think the quality of work leaving the factory was a lot better than what I see on mine.
Looks like Dane, and others, got you squared away on this but for what it's worth, here is a photo of a July '73 4001 (I don't have a photo of the harness on the March '73 but they are the same, anyway). I added the red wire that bypasses the .0047µF cap for the bridge pickup. I no longer have this particular 4001 (in your favorite color), a friend of mine near Philly is its current caretaker.
Re: Hmmm ...Fireglo
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:43 pm
by aceonbass
I've actually got those caps in stock too, but we're gonna go with Sprague Orange drops and an aqua cap with push-pull bypass for the cap since that was what was commonly used from '71-'73. I've never seen an aqua .0047 bass cut cap in a '73, but I'm pretty sure no one would have found one to replace an original Sprague if they were bypassing it.
Re: Hmmm ...Fireglo
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:47 pm
by thx1955
jps wrote:thx1955 wrote:Jeffrey,
Would you happen to have a picture of your wiring harness. Looking at mine I'm surprised at the "mess" the soldering looks like it was done by a blind man, and I have to think the quality of work leaving the factory was a lot better than what I see on mine.
Looks like Dane, and others, got you squared away on this but for what it's worth, here is a photo of a July '73 4001 (I don't have a photo of the harness on the March '73 but they are the same, anyway). I added the red wire that bypasses the .0047µF cap for the bridge pickup. I no longer have this particular 4001 (in your favorite color), a friend of mine near Philly is its current caretaker.
Thanks for the Picture, that's more like what I'd have expected to see from the factory, you're correct I've been graciously assisted by Shaun and Dane. All squared away
Re: Hmmm ...Fireglo
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:07 pm
by henry5
thx1955 wrote:jps wrote:thx1955 wrote:Jeffrey,
Would you happen to have a picture of your wiring harness. Looking at mine I'm surprised at the "mess" the soldering looks like it was done by a blind man, and I have to think the quality of work leaving the factory was a lot better than what I see on mine.
Looks like Dane, and others, got you squared away on this but for what it's worth, here is a photo of a July '73 4001 (I don't have a photo of the harness on the March '73 but they are the same, anyway). I added the red wire that bypasses the .0047µF cap for the bridge pickup. I no longer have this particular 4001 (in your favorite color), a friend of mine near Philly is its current caretaker.
Thanks for the Picture, that's more like what I'd have expected to see from the factory, you're correct I've been graciously assisted by Shaun and Dane. All squared away
No problem Jim. Dane's the man!

Re: Hmmm ...Fireglo
Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 11:39 am
by thx1955
She's on the UPS truck for delivery this morning .... I'm trying not to hold my breath but it's hard !!!
Re: Hmmm ...Fireglo
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:48 am
by Kiddwad57
Well its not a bass, and it's blurry, but here's a 610 hanging out with some old friends.
Re: Hmmm ...Fireglo
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:21 pm
by thx1955
Thanks everyone for all the help with this, I installed the new harness last night, not without issues (non of those tribute to Dane's new harness)
Here's the old harness ready to be removed, as you can see it looks like it was Soldered by someone with their eyes closed
Here's the old and new harnesses side by side:
Old harness de-soldered from pickups and earth wire, I've a "Bobby"
New Harness attached to the Pick Guard and Bridge pickup reattached
Everything reattached and all's well
Has anyone any ideas about this, I've not come across this on any other Ric I've ever owned, the number "944" punched into the body under the Pick Guard
Thanks to all for the advice and guidance, more to come
Re: Hmmm ...Fireglo
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:40 pm
by jps
thx1955 wrote:Has anyone any ideas about this, I've not come across this on any other Ric I've ever owned, the number "944" punched into the body under the Pick Guard
Better than a 924!

Re: Hmmm ...Fireglo
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:50 pm
by karlfer
Testing testing, long time lurker, 1st post.
Somebody mention Fireglo?
Re: Hmmm ...Fireglo
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:10 pm
by thx1955
Gorgeous ....
Welcome to the Forum
Re: Hmmm ...Fireglo
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:22 pm
by bassduke49
Nice C64! Welcome!
Re: Hmmm ...Fireglo
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:37 pm
by Kopfjaeger
Nice bass! Good call on putting Sprague caps in her! While I do like the tone vintage Ajax give you, the orange goodness that comes from those Spragues is awesome!!
73 was a transitional year in every way! My May 73 had a pair of ******* brown caps in her, different than what was in yours and Jeff's. She still sounded great! My late 72 has Spragues.
Sepp