Oh My Gosh! On Ebay! Time to Mortgage the farm!

jnbass · Post by **jnbass** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:33 pm

gotta love them shill'ers, driving up the price.

bastards!

rickcrazy · Post by **rickcrazy** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:40 pm

Anthony:
Yes, that's the picture I saw some months back. It's the same 4000, all right.

marc61 · Post by **marc61** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:41 am

I truly love Jared's enthusiasium for us forum members getting Ricks, and at the best price possible too!

Shill bids don't bother me right now because I haven't met the reserve anyway.

Steve, I know about the mods on this thing but, I'm thinking his reserve is 5K.Even in that case, I'd still like to be the high bidder when the auction ends as maybe he'll second chance it to me.

wim · Post by **wim** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:30 am

If you really really want to know the reserve here's a trick (probably illegal or so): take your bid amount and add two zero's.
You'll immediatly see the reserve met announcement and the price it's at.
Retract then your bid : reason wrong amount entered.

Reason I came to know this was that it happened to me last week.. I bid $12,00 which was interpreted by e-bay as $1200.00

marc61 · Post by **marc61** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:25 am

You could do that, but of course it would scare the seller who could in turn cancel your bid when it becomes legit.Better off using a shill to try that. It's a fun suggestion but,I prefer to play by the rules.

Besides, I'm willing to pay my price, not necessarily his.

leftybass · Post by **leftybass** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:33 am

In relation to other 4000 basses from this period that still retain the original finish and hardware, I would think $3500-$4K would be the ceiling on an example that has been restored, maybe less. Original-finish+hardware examples go between $4500-$6K with the rare execption of a bass in near-mint shape commanding more. The ebay bass is cool nonetheless.

marc61 · Post by **marc61** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:59 am

Do you know of any others for sale right now?I'd like to have something to compare this to.

Value system is funny but, the first thing that occurs to me is what other basses form that period are going for.There were no Jazz basses in those years, but the early ones go for three times what a Rickenbacker would.j-Basses certainly go for at least double from those years.

It seems to me that Jazz bass prices are based on "The Jaco Factor" but, Ricks were played by many top bassists as well.

There are fewer collector's for Ricks BUT, the collecting base is so much more hardcore and knowledgable as evidenced by this forum.

As high as some Ricks seem to be going for, I still say there's alot of room for growth on the investment side.

leftybass · Post by **leftybass** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:24 am

Well, the ones that I knew of that were hanging around are now apparently gone, and they ranged from $4-6K.

Ultimately each instrument is valued differently based upon what it sold for previously, or what the next buyer is willing to pay.

Rickenbacker basses from the 60's sell for more than the 50's 4000's on a fairly consistant basis, but remember one thing: ANY Rickenbacker bass from the 50's or 60's regardless of condition or specification is much more rare than a Fender anything.

marc61 · Post by **marc61** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:32 am

In fewer words, that's my point.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:47 am

I am half tempted to put my '68 4001 on ebay and see if I can get $5000 for it ...

shamustwin · Post by **shamustwin** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:04 am

Voltage Guitars in Hollyweird sold a '60 4000 they said was all orig. and ex+ condition for about 4 thou about half a year ago (I was saving my pennies). Looked perfect in their pics.

tblair · Post by **tblair** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:12 am

The mapleglo '60 at Voltage wasn't all original- it had a suspicious white guard (rather than gold), and a 'Made in USA' truss cover.

Guitarbroker had a nice '61 in Fireglo/Gold just a week or so ago at $5500, but it appears to be gone now- the pic's still available if you search gbase.

leftybass · Post by **leftybass** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:16 am

Jeff, that 68 you have is great..if it was a lefty, we'd have to talk.. LOL

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:56 am

ya ... these days it just sits sits in a case ... it is like it is missing a low b string or something ...

squirebass · Post by **squirebass** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:24 am

Maybe you should talk to me, Jeff!
I agree with John, the ones from the '50s that I've seen usually have an ASKING price in the $3500-4000 range. And all of those were well used, usually with a missing mute.
Jeff you'd love that, they had a sliding mute on them that allowed you to get play muted or unmuted...