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The Sie Liebt Dich Controversy is discussed here.

That's very interesting. Just spent an hour with my sound editor listening. To me so far, the soundtracks are different. Listen to the guitars at the end, yeah,yeah,yeah. They are different. And I tried my best to syncronise it. But there are no phasing effects,there's no "correlation". Sorry. But I might be wrong.
Let's wait for the 325C64 to compare the sound
of 325C58 and 325C64, and to measure the impedance, resistance as well as inductivity of the pick ups then.

I tried my best to syncronise them also with a CD player and my trusty turntable which has a variable speed strobe on it. The few times I could get them somewhat synched the pitch and speed were the pretty much the same so his theory of using the original basic tracks I suppose are plausible, but the rhythm guitars are definitely different, this is almost into the "Paul is dead" territory for me. I would think that the rhythm guitar would have been recorded with the basic tracks, always have been when I've done stuff in the studio. Also one time I had them pretty good and on of them seemed to jump ahead of the other all of a sudden. We would need two good CD players that could be triggered to start at the same exact time to really tell if they are exact. The tone on the bass is really different from the English to the German version also, so are the drum sounds. If they used the original basic tracks to me they are almost unrecognizable. Of course I don't know everything, I only think I do, haha!
And then you have the engineer (?) who said that they recorded basic tracks all over again, that the originals were lost, just too many things pointing in the direction of re-recording to me.

I found proof the basic tracks are different, listen to the bass line on the second line in the first verse in both versions, (It's you she's thinking of) he plays it simpler right there in the English language version than at any other point in both recordings. He plays GGG EEE BBB DDD right there and at every other point in both versions he plays GGDGEEE BBB DDD. Also he actually plays many little up and down runs to the G in the verses in the German version, for ex. he plays GGDGF#EEE BBB DDD in the verses (GF#E are very quick, 32nd notes?) and then DEF#G to the beginning of the line in the verses in the German version (which are also just as quick). He plays much simpler in the English language version. So that proves for me once and for all these are two different versions.

...and this, therefore, would seem to testify to the sheer CONSISTENCY OF MUSICIANSHIP that these lads had developed by then...

I mean, if we can't tell one take from another without "microscopic" examination...

My first ex wife is German, and she could never stand to listen to that (or Komm Gibme ...whatever) because she said their pronounciatons were atrocious.

How did she like your spelling? haha!

she couldn't read