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I concur with Steve et al. who say to record dry, then add effects later. All of the literature I've read on the subject say the same thing. I've barely tapped into the effects that my D16 is capable of.

Brian,

Try de-tuning ever so slightly, on ONE of the tracks.


I'm not hearing a 12-string on the original; there's no hint of an octave string anywhere. The only way they could have done this with a 12-string would be if they had gotten clever and removed an octave string and doubled up on the tonic.

Actually, this wouldn't surprise me much...

Tried the de-tuning thing, no avail. Man, this is really pissing me off!!!
Thanks for all the advice everyone, though.

If you're talking about the signature lick, it's mainly played on the high e and b strings until the ending of the lick, where it goes to the E chord. Could be a 12 string, though it sounds like a Gretsch doubled to me.
I know they used to manipulate one of the recorder heads to get a 'chorus-y' effect. Could be that's what's going on. Hell, do the best you can and worry more about the vocals! Though I'm a Holly fan too, I thought the Beatles version was much more interesting.

Steve, thanks for the reply. First off, I've played it a dozen times. I know how to get that tone buy playing next to the bridge(Man, I LOVE my Gretsch tone), so I know it's no 12-String. I REALLY think you're right, the second track is slightly modified somehow.
What I really commend is your quote: "Hell, do the best you can and worry more about the vocals!" Man, you are so right. I am a better guitarist than I am a singer. But it's just I want to be able to find "that" sound out of the guitar(s). I will do my best...Thanks man.....

You're very welcome, Brian. Nice to meet you. I'm kinda new here. My friend Dennis (Taylor-see his posts)is the real expert. He told me about this great forum.

Hi,

I'm listening to the stereo version recorded from LP, now in my iTunes (along with everything else Beatles!), and I hear doubled lead guitars (Gretsch's I assume-don't own one...yet!). But I hear one panned centered and another panned right side. The one in the center is playing it more. Meaning verses and chorus.

The right panned guitar is doing the chord slide-up thing during the verses and chimes in (no pun intended) on the choruses.

Martin, could you possibly send me the stereo version. I'm quite interested. I bought the Beatles' Capitol CD's just to hear the difference. Let me know if you can and I'll give you my e-mail address.

Brian,

Is it possible that you're somehow recording the first track to the second, along with the second part? This can cause some weird phasing stuff.

Naw Dennis, two different tracks. I use Adobe Audition and have the luxury of 128 tracks per session(Not that I need THAT many...). I've tried it on my Gretsch, Casino, and Strat, same outcome. I've even tried using 2 different guitars...Same. This board somehow won't let me send an audio sample, so if you want me to e-mail it, let me know (219Kb MP3).
Brian.......

Wow. So much trouble for such a simple song, eh?
I believe you, though. Yeah, I'd like to hear what you've done, if you don't mind.