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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:14 pm
by admin
That would be very cool John. It would also make the headstock a little lighter and perhaps improve the sustain to some extent. Didn't Roger McGuinn have this done to one of his guitars?
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 5:06 pm
by aristeas
Thanks Adam, That's a great looking guitar - wouldn't mind having one of those myself.
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:15 am
by ken_j
Like this one from page 278 of Electric Guitars the Illustrated Encyclopedia-Tony Bacon.

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:59 am
by admin
Yes good work and keen eye Ken. My only question in seeing the routed out headstock before was will it weaken the headstock to any degree. I suspect that the headstock is presently over-built, but I would be curious what John Hall has to say about the structural integrity of routed out models. There aren't too many in existence.
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:12 am
by ken_j
It's funny but the first Ric 12 I ever saw up close, sometime in the eighties, was of this style. It was not til a few years later that I learned this was the odd one. Considering I bought my first Ric bass in 69' I guess I never payed much attention to the guitars until I started playing them.
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:19 pm
by tony_carey
Some of the early Gibson basses had the 'classical' headstock arrangement & I am led to believe that a high percentage of the surviving ones have had repairs in that area.
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:41 am
by dave4004
I sincerely doubt that. The guitars that get pulled off eBay are using a trademarked body shape or a trademarked body feature like the cresting wave, and the Surfcaster does not. Or they're pulled for infringing on the Rickenbacker name, which Charvel never did.
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:33 am
by ken_j
Since this was the thread that we had discussed the routed out 12 string I thought I would comment here. It appears that they are going back to the slots going clear through the head stock as shown on the updated web site.

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:35 am
by ken_j
I guess I just went here before seeing the other post. Sorry.