Gorgeous Cheyenne on Ebay

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:24 am

I want to get a trans red 4004CII or CII-5

cheyenne · Post by **cheyenne** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:45 pm

Its gone, anyone here pick up on it?

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:13 pm

nope ... it is still there ... 0 bids ...

henny · Post by **henny** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:26 pm

What's going on with it?!

She's a beauty! Somebody nail this one!!!

cheyenne · Post by **cheyenne** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:18 am

Someone wake up Ted, I thought he was looking for a highly figured one like this.

rickfan60 · Post by **rickfan60** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:38 am

It sure is sweet. In my experience, the CII has a fatter neck than the current 4003's. Of course I have only handled 2 of them. My 4004C has a much thinner neck than either of the CIIs I have played.

rickfan60 · Post by **rickfan60** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:44 am

I think the fingerboard of the CII is finished. They seem to have a matte (like the clear coat over Autumnglo) finish and are not bare wood.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:24 am

I have only played an older 4004C and 4004L basses ... all 4 of them had a neck that was wider and slimmer ... wider from the front view but slimmer from the top view ... I think a few of the old ones had ski jump or s curve neck problems ... so maybe they made the neck stronger ...

cheyenne · Post by **cheyenne** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:28 am

Mines a 2002 model and the board was unfinished. I really didnt like the dry, kinda chalky look it had, so I applied a small layer of tung oil and it really brought out some nice grain in the fingerboard.

edski · Post by **edski** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:53 pm

It must be the Fender strap!

Honestly, I sometimes wonder about the Bay. I haven't been following Ricks for long there, but I've seen several questionable 4001's go for the $900-1000 range, and the one 4004 I saw was the Cheyenne I that Jeff Rath got. IIRC he paid in that range for a perfectly mint guitar,not a Frankenstien that might not have been a real Rick.

Now this one. If I had the cash, or a sizeable fraction of it, available I'd be trying my hardest to put the funds in place. Heck, I might have done BIN for this, as this is just about what I want to eventually get. But it's not my time yet...

Just seems funny that some items get far more than they deserve, and this item, apparently beautiful, near mint, and reasonably priced, gets ignored (other by those of one the sidelines goinf "oooh, ahhhh"). Guess that's just the way it is...might have something to do with how few people have actually heard of a Rick 4004?

BTW, mentioned it to my wife, and she was skeptical. I recently got quoted $1130 for a new Laredo, so I'm assuming that a new Cheyenne II could be had for about the $1300 range. My feeling is that this instrument really doesn't lose value, so $1200 is very reasonable. Am I in the ballpark with the price?

One aspect of ordering one new seems to be the wait, but the little lady doesn't have a good sample to draw conclusions from. When I bought my 650 Dakota in 2001 I was told "6 months or longer", and happily plunked down the 25% figuring I could easily pay it off in that time. 2 weeks later I was scrambling to come up with the $500 plus I needed when it came in...doesn't seem to be a typical TAT for RIC.

But as unlikely as that seems to be 4 years later, I have to be strong and not risk it with this project. Not going to make my order (or jump into an E-bay auction) until I have most of the $ in my grubby hands!

cheyenne · Post by **cheyenne** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:18 am

I think its worth every bit the BIN price. The earlier ones have beautiful figured maple.

vito · Post by **vito** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:15 am

You are indeed in the ball park, Ed. I recently bought a 4004C ii new from Pick Of the Ricks. If this blue one had come up before I made the purchase, I'd have snatched it up in an instant, even though I prefer trans green.

bottom4 · Post by **bottom4** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:08 am

Scott said: "The earlier ones have beautiful figured maple"

The new ones are nice too!

henny · Post by **henny** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:21 am

I think the term is "nicer"

johnhall · Post by **johnhall** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:51 am

Every batch of wood is different in terms of figure and even then, some pieces are going to be better than others. It would be different if we made these from plastic.

As it happens, some of the nicest woods we've ever seen has been coming in during the last few months, possibly because the demand for Maple from the architectural world may be headed toward something different. For awhile, almost all the nice Maple was going toward veneer and used in office buildings, kitchen cabinets, and every Starbucks.