R-Tailpiece with holes for strings

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:26 pm

Hey, Scoobster, easy now...

We're here to help and discuss. You asked the question and got lots of feedback, even a message from the MAN himself!

If the Prez of GM wrote a note to you begging you not to put wide whites on your new Caddy, would you listen to his feedback?

Who the h*** is the Prez of GM these days, anyway? I lost track...

Josh, I think that historic models are substantially less than 90%.

Seems to me that lots of basses get sold, also 360-6s. They are what people think of when they hear the name. 330s because they are built well and are good value.

But historics are a niche market. Again, JH is the authority on this.

billikenn · Post by **billikenn** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:34 pm

It was just a guess, and I meant to imply that I was excusing basses (logically because they dont have Rs) also excused acoustics for the same reason.

as far as Im concerned the 330, 360 are historic models

but Im biased, because I dont care for either.

JP

jps · Post by **jps** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:28 pm

"I meant to imply that I was excusing basses (logically because they dont have Rs)"

Really?

billikenn · Post by **billikenn** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:26 pm

yeah yeah I know

"why's everybody always pickin on me"
lol

but that bass is a piece of history, not a historic model!

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:03 pm

Josh, almost all Ricks are "historic" in that sense! The 200 series maybe not, but somebody is bound to disagree on that, too!

We all get picked on here and good humor keeps us from taking offense. (Even at spelling differences...I meant "humour" and "offence" for our Brit/Oz friends!)

ozover50 · Post by **ozover50** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:09 pm

Nice to be taken into consideration, Paul. Thank you!

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:50 pm

You're welcome, Howard! Wouldn't want to be offencive (sic).

scoobster28 · Post by **scoobster28** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:12 am

Paul,
I was taking it easy, and I am not surprised that I received a reply from John Hall as he is a very nice man who has always taken the time to help me with different issues I have had with my guitars and Gibson cases, and other such things. I have come to expect nothing less from a company devoted to quality products and good public relations; that is why I love Rickenbackers so much.

As a member for several years, I know that different people respond different ways. I was asking whether it was possible, and if anyone had ever done it before. However, it appeared as though I was suggesting that the R-piece was inferior as designed or that I was recommend its demise. I was merely asking if the piece could support the modification that was dreamed up in my Law class that day. Anyways, like I said, I happen to like the R-tailpiece.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:42 am

John helped you with a question on Gibson cases? COOL!

I did not perceive you as saying that the "R" tailpiece was inferior; you know because you've been here for several years (as opposed to my couple of months) that you're always opening a can of worms when you mention the "R".

I think that the "R" is a thing of beauty. It's because I'm trying something different with my 381 that I'm changing it, not because of any other issue. The "R" is also tradition, plain and simple. But JH seems tired of dealing with the bad rap the tailpiece has been getting lately. I'm sure it's "demise" is due to a long period of agonizing, and we'll all miss it when it goes. Mine will go into a box, well-wrapped, until I decide to use it on another project. It's jewelry, as far as I'm concerned. Gorgeous, as I'm fond of saying!

johnhall · Post by **johnhall** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:16 am

The other day Kenny had a call from a guy who wanted a lefty -R- tailpiece. When he was told that such a thing doesn't exist, he was quite insistent that he had a photograph of one at the NAMM show which he subsequently sent by e-mail.

Too bad he didn't notice that all the writing on the signs in the background was backwards.

Kenny came to me with the story laughing so I told him to tell the customer we DO have lefty tailpieces but they only come with an "L" on them.

We'll see if he bites.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:21 am

Then the "R" would have been bass-ackwards on the tailpiece, too...Maybe he was Russian?

tony_carey · Post by **tony_carey** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:29 am

My wife LOVES the R tailpiece (she says it's not a Ric without it), but I like both types (I have 3 of each). The R is a pig to restring at a gig though. I'm a pretty heavy player & break strings reasonably often (despite changing them every 3-7 days) & restringing an R tailpiece between a song can be pretty frustrating. No such trouble on a trapeze!

ken_j · Post by **ken_j** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:28 pm

Paul,
"Who the h*** is the Prez of GM these days, anyway?"
G. Richard Wagoner, Jr.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:56 pm

Ken, that was a rhetorical question. I bet that either:

1. you had to use Google, or
2. you work for GM, or
3. he's a relative

So now the question is:

Who the h*** is G. Richard Wagoner, Jr.?

GM lost its way a generation ago. No passion within escapes into its products. Contrary to Rick and its customer base.

That was my point...

ken_j · Post by **ken_j** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:41 pm

He's not a relative. I thought it would be nice if he adopted me, but I'm older. I guess that won't work, besides never met the guy.

Depends on your passion. You should check out what is coming out of the Performance Build Center a little later this year.