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Re: Marketplace Forum Restriction For New Members
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:45 pm
by jdogric12
I like the "Post Bumper Buyer Beware"... well done Gil!

Re: Marketplace Forum Restriction For New Members
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:15 pm
by cjj
Yeah, pretty funny. Of course, like most of these guys, the desired effect was to get to 30 posts so he could see all of those ridiculous
deals in the for sale section. And once he hit 30 and found that nobody is giving away guitars, he's gone...

Re: Marketplace Forum Restriction For New Members
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:57 pm
by JakeK
You've outdone yourself, Gil.

Re: Marketplace Forum Restriction For New Members
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:23 am
by just_bassics
I think I'd be more in favor of a post and time limit for access to the marketplace. As demonstrated here, anyone can ring up 30 quick posts and get access, but a 30 Post / 30 Day (or even seven day) waiting period would help to cool the heels of those looking for a quick transaction and would perhaps allow them more time to peruse this forum to see all that it has to offer.
Re: Marketplace Forum Restriction For New Members
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:58 am
by jps
At least one of these newbies had made a few posts months ago and then racked the rest up in a single day after that. So, this is not as easily solved as we may hope for.
Re: Marketplace Forum Restriction For New Members
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:01 am
by admin
I think that we should also be mindful that this Forum is about creating an interest in Rickenbackers.
Getting to the Marketplace may be the goal of some who Register so that they may learn about what more knowledgeable persons have to say or may simply want to have access to all that is available here. We are all curious when we may not know what is behind door number three.
In a nutshell, it may be difficult to assess the motivation of those we don't yet know based solely on the variable of the number of posts made during a short period. Do you think we should leave the door open to new comers whose motivation, at the end of the day, may be honourable?
Re: Marketplace Forum Restriction For New Members
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:37 am
by JakeK
Here's something else I had in mind, what if new members were approved after achieving the 30 posts goal? If their posts were meaningful, they're granted access, if not, they don't and have to start over again until they get it right.
Debate as you wish.
Re: Marketplace Forum Restriction For New Members
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:00 pm
by collin
How about we just open the doors up again, entirely?
I don't remember getting scammed.....or getting as annoyed...but people who appeared just to buy or sell a guitar and then disappear. That was much better than this...
Re: Marketplace Forum Restriction For New Members
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:06 pm
by tmossman
admin wrote:In a nutshell, it may be difficult to assess the motivation of those we don't yet know based solely on the variable of the number of posts made during a short period. Do you think we should leave the door open to new comers whose motivation, at the end of the day, may be honourable?
YES.
Nothing can be done to make transactions safe. The policy we adopted is simply arbitrary and exclusionary, which by its very existence is anathema to the stated goal of creating community.
If a new member sells or tries to buy something be cautious, if an old member sells or tries to buy something be cautious.
Re: Marketplace Forum Restriction For New Members
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:41 pm
by jdogric12
tmossman wrote:If a new member sells or tries to buy something be cautious, if an old member sells or tries to buy something be cautious.
Excellent advice!
Re: Marketplace Forum Restriction For New Members
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:33 pm
by Ivan3000
This is a fantastic discussion, quick question, why are some forum pictures blue? Mine is brown and tan (which I quite like).
Re: Marketplace Forum Restriction For New Members
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:36 pm
by Ivan3000
JakeK wrote:Here's something else I had in mind, what if new members were approved after achieving the 30 posts goal? If their posts were meaningful, they're granted access, if not, they don't and have to start over again until they get it right.
Debate as you wish.
That would be great, I remember being a new member, I didn't even know there was a marketplace. Then when I found it, I realzed where I would probably buy my first Rick!

Re: Marketplace Forum Restriction For New Members
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:38 pm
by Ivan3000
collin wrote:jps wrote:Bianca joined March 31st, 2011, and made 5 posts up through May 6th, until today with all these other posts. Perhaps she has some money to buy a Rick with, or has one to sell now.

Well, that remains to be seen......if you want to find Bianca, i'd look in the Marketplace.
For those that missed it or doubt what i'm saying, take a quick look at the "active topics" screenshots here:
what the....jpg
what the.......jpg
How is yours blue? Can you change the layout (I've grown fond of this tan/marrron though

)
P.S. Sorry for the back to back posts, I find this and extremely interesting topic.

Re: Marketplace Forum Restriction For New Members
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:43 pm
by gibsonlp
Yes, you can change themes under "User Control Panel" -> "Board preferences" and then "My board style"
Re: Marketplace Forum Restriction For New Members
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:38 am
by k43rover
tmossman wrote:admin wrote:In a nutshell, it may be difficult to assess the motivation of those we don't yet know based solely on the variable of the number of posts made during a short period. Do you think we should leave the door open to new comers whose motivation, at the end of the day, may be honourable?
YES.
Nothing can be done to make transactions safe. The policy we adopted is simply arbitrary and exclusionary, which by its very existence is anathema to the stated goal of creating community.
If a new member sells or tries to buy something be cautious, if an old member sells or tries to buy something be cautious.
Completely agree Todd. I think you only have to look back at the infamous NT case to realise that the most damage/loss/heartache often results from a person who has first deliberately built up a trusted reputation over an extended period of time before they start with their "activities". In the case of a new member who has rapidly built up 30+ posts with superficial content/comments, it only takes any of us a few moments using the search facility to realise what they've done and to treat any subsequent "for sale" post with the caution it would deserve. Personally I would say the former case is potentially far more damaging than the latter...as usual, caveat emptor in ALL cases.