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Re: Model of the Week Ten: The 4001V63

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:51 pm
by mtnckr
Is there anyone who suffers from v63's high tension strings? I realized it is not related with the string type or the set up of the bass. There is obviously big different between 4001 and couple of 4003's I have and my v63. Am I the only one who experience it or is this normal? I really wonder it.

Re: Model of the Week Ten: The 4001V63

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:34 am
by johnallg
Metin, I'm not sure what you mean...

"Is there anyone who suffers from v63's high tension strings?"

String tension is a function of how the strings are made and what they are made of.

Re: Model of the Week Ten: The 4001V63

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:39 am
by cassius987
mtnckr wrote:Is there anyone who suffers from v63's high tension strings? I realized it is not related with the string type or the set up of the bass. There is obviously big different between 4001 and couple of 4003's I have and my v63. Am I the only one who experience it or is this normal? I really wonder it.
There is absolutely no way the 4001V63 has higher tension strings--it would have to be a bass that was meant to be set up radically different from a 4001/4003 and/or it would need to have a longer scale. Sorry... looks like you just need to get it set up.

Re: Model of the Week Ten: The 4001V63

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:35 am
by mtnckr
Sorry, I couldn't express myself in English correctly. and I am not sure if I can do now :) What I am trying to say is, it is not related with the string cague etc. And bass is also in very good set up now. But there is considerable amount of playability difference between v63 and 4003's. v63 stirngs are much more streched than 4003's. I changed strings but the result was the same. Maybe it is just special case on my v63 :(
I know it is stupid example but check this video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LOclli- ... PL&index=1
that v63 looks like mine. Just look at and listen first 30 seconds, I can feel and hear that bass has streched strings (I still couldn^'t find the right words :cry: ), mine is also like that. Look at the pick and string relation, and the sound it produces, do not you think it is harder to play it than any 4003's or 4001's.
Ok it looks like I should use English more, it really dissapears if you don't use regularly :(
Have a nice day.

Re: Model of the Week Ten: The 4001V63

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:04 am
by jps
mtnckr wrote:Ok it looks like I should use English more, it really dissapears if you don't use regularly :(
Have a nice day.
Metin, your English is far better than most of our's Turkish! :wink:

Re: Model of the Week Ten: The 4001V63

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:08 am
by jps
Can you provide sound clips of you 4003 and V63 to give us examples of the difference in tone between the two? I assume you are referring to the tone/sound of your two basses, or is it the feel of the strings on the two basses in question?

Re: Model of the Week Ten: The 4001V63

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:22 pm
by mtnckr
jps wrote:Can you provide sound clips of you 4003 and V63 to give us examples of the difference in tone between the two? I assume you are referring to the tone/sound of your two basses, or is it the feel of the strings on the two basses in question?
Hey Jeffrey, thanks for the encouragement :) You're so kind. I am not referring tonal differences, I think I know enough about it. I am reffering feel of touching to the strings. It is much harder to play v63 than 4003. Strings are sooooo streched.
I am sorry but I have no soundcard for recording. And I believe, recording can't help my problem. Maybe I should write my problem in a new topic. Cause my problem made this beautiful topic a little dirty :) Soory about that guys.
Peace.

Re: Model of the Week Ten: The 4001V63

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:39 pm
by jps
I think I understand now, Metin. The strings are tighter in feel; you're saying stretched as in a pulled tight rubber band, right? That would be from higher tension strings. Have you tried the same brand and gauge of strings on both basses? The scale length of the two basses in question are the same so the only way they would feel different is if the action were significantly higher on the one with the tighter feel to it, assuming the exact same strings were on both basses.

Re: Model of the Week Ten: The 4001V63

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:51 pm
by cassius987
jps wrote:I think I understand now, Metin. The strings are tighter in feel; you're saying stretched as in a pulled tight rubber band, right? That would be from higher tension strings. Have you tried the same brand and gauge of strings on both basses? The scale length of the two basses in question are the same so the only way they would feel different is if the action were significantly higher on the one with the tighter feel to it, assuming the exact same strings were on both basses.
+1e10, Jeff has nailed it for you. Please make sure there are no differences in the strings, relief, and action before making comparisons. There shouldn't be a difference.

Then again, I just played a 4001 built in 1972 and it felt worlds different from my New Millennium Rickys, even in terms of scale, yet there should be no difference there either. I feel your pain!

Re: Model of the Week Ten: The 4001V63

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:52 am
by mtnckr
Thanks guys, I will do.
I hope it is related with the setup (action etc.).

Re: Model of the Week Ten: The 4001V63

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:23 pm
by Lefty4003S8
mtnckr wrote:
jps wrote:Can you provide sound clips of you 4003 and V63 to give us examples of the difference in tone between the two? I assume you are referring to the tone/sound of your two basses, or is it the feel of the strings on the two basses in question?
Hey Jeffrey, thanks for the encouragement :) You're so kind. I am not referring tonal differences, I think I know enough about it. I am reffering feel of touching to the strings. It is much harder to play v63 than 4003. Strings are sooooo streched.
I am sorry but I have no soundcard for recording. And I believe, recording can't help my problem. Maybe I should write my problem in a new topic. Cause my problem made this beautiful topic a little dirty :) Soory about that guys.
Peace.

NO.....you did not make a beautiful topic dirty!!!!! I hope you get your problem resolved!!!!!!
Jeff Scott----you have mail.

Lefty4003S8

Re: Model of the Week Ten: The 4001V63

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:22 am
by jps
Got it and replied to, Greg. :)

Re: Model of the Week Ten: The 4001V63

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:36 am
by gbarchus
Hey Joey (et al)!

Here's my 2001 jetglo

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Does it have a capacitor? I've never opened it up.

Gale

Re: Model of the Week Ten: The 4001V63

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:50 am
by rickenbrother
Hello Gale, welcome to the forum!
The 4001V63 does not have the .0047 cap. The 4001V64 and V64S do.

Re: Model of the Week Ten: The 4001V63

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:22 am
by jps
rickenbrother wrote:The 4001V63 does not have the .0047 cap. The 4001V64 and V64S do.
Mine does now! :mrgreen:

Welcome, Gale! :D