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Re: NAMM 2013
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:22 am
by Grey
Would be nice to see something new rather than a lottery of mix and match features on the same instruments. That having been said, the other major brands seem to be just as idle. Rather dissapointed in the Gibson booth.
Wouldn't it be great if Rickenbacker started making amps again? I get the whole "we don't need to do anything new because of the demand for what we already have" thing, but i'd buy one.
Re: NAMM 2013
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:39 am
by electrofaro
k43rover wrote:scotty wrote:He cant Eddie he needs to sell his wonky necked 340

...well that should get him about 2% of Graham's asking price!!

Well, Eddie underestimated my bank account... anyway, Graham's a nice chap, but his prices are not what I ever am going to pay for a guitar. As the guitar is yours its yours to decide what you want to do with it of course. The end result does look nice, but I am a "factory sealed box" kind of guy

Re: NAMM 2013
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:49 am
by scotty
Graham is not a nice chap

Re: NAMM 2013
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:10 am
by godber
How did you resolve the 6 string headstock in the conversion Eddie, reshaped?
Re: NAMM 2013
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:38 am
by chronictown
Those guitars already have a c63 headstock with only six tuners, so add a couple routs and six new tuners and Bob's yer uncle.
Re: NAMM 2013
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:39 am
by k43rover
godber wrote:How did you resolve the 6 string headstock in the conversion Eddie, reshaped?
Resolved as per the "before and after" shot below Mark.
I thought about leaving the second guitar's headstock unrouted but this C63 headstock shape only looks right to me with the 12 string routing. Of course that's unsurprising as that's what it was originally designed to take for Harrison's 1963 made 360/12. This option also has the obvious advantage that with a quick string/nut/bridge change over, it can be reconfigured to bog standard Rose Morris 1993 12 string.
The other option that I considered (briefly) was reshaping the headstock to a correct '60's six string template. However, that would actually require new headstock wings to be added to slightly widen it (from top to bottom as you look at the picture). That's because the existing wood on a C63 headstock is just too narrow at some points to be reshaped (i.e. there is no wood there to reshape!). It didn't make any sense to me to do that type of work when the whole concept was actually much more accurate as a 12 string once the factory had decided to use the standard C63 neck/headstock (and they also placed the six tuners in the same place as on a C63 headstock which makes the conversion to 12 very straightforward/tempting).
The 12 string conversion that Graham and others went for is a very simple job - route the headstock, touch up the white paint, swap out nut/bridge/strings and bingo, you have a 360S/12 Edge Limited Edition. I thought about doing that myself, but the underlying quality of this guitar and obvious potential to convert to a near 100% accurate Rose Morris reissue was just too much for me to resist in the end...

Re: NAMM 2013
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:47 am
by k43rover
Electrostring wrote:Graham's a nice chap, but his prices are not what I ever am going to pay for a guitar.
Hey Werner, you're not trying to suggest that Graham's pricing is, er.........ambitious, are ya??

Re: NAMM 2013
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:57 am
by godber
k43rover wrote:godber wrote:How did you resolve the 6 string headstock in the conversion Eddie, reshaped?
Resolved as per the "before and after" shot below Mark.
I thought about leaving the second guitar's headstock unrouted but this C63 headstock shape only looks right to me with the 12 string routing. Of course that's unsurprising as that's what it was originally designed to take for Harrison's 1963 made 360/12. This option also has the obvious advantage that with a quick string/nut/bridge change over, it can be reconfigured to bog standard Rose Morris 1993 12 string.
The other option that I considered (briefly) was reshaping the headstock to a correct '60's six string template. However, that would actually require new headstock wings to be added to slightly widen it (from top to bottom as you look at the picture). That's because the existing wood on a C63 headstock is just too narrow at some points to be reshaped (i.e. there is no wood there to reshape!). It didn't make any sense to me to do that type of work when the whole concept was actually much more accurate as a 12 string once the factory had decided to use the standard C63 neck/headstock (and they also placed the six tuners in the same place as on a C63 headstock which makes the conversion to 12 very straightforward/tempting).
The 12 string conversion that Graham and others went for is a very simple job - route the headstock, touch up the white paint, swap out nut/bridge/strings and bingo, you have a 360S/12 Edge Limited Edition. I thought about doing that myself, but the underlying quality of this guitar and obvious potential to convert to a near 100% accurate Rose Morris reissue was just too much for me to resist in the end...

Ah, I see both 12 string headstocks. Very neat work indeed.
Re: NAMM 2013
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:19 am
by electrofaro
k43rover wrote:Electrostring wrote:Graham's a nice chap, but his prices are not what I ever am going to pay for a guitar.
Hey Werner, you're not trying to suggest that Graham's pricing is, er.........ambitious, are ya??

Who? Me? Nah
scotty wrote:Graham is not a nice chap

Well, that mystery is solved then as well... please tune in again next time for Arthur C. Clarke's Mysterious Universe!

Re: NAMM 2013
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:20 am
by k43rover
Electrostring wrote: Well, Eddie underestimated my bank account... I am a "factory sealed box" kind of guy

Hey Werner, looks like Lady Luck is right on your side...at this price (undercutting Graham by close to a grand) surely you can't resist an out-the-box minter of your favourite white?
BTW this guy is also underselling the rarity of his guitar...it used to be one of ten in this original six string white configuration...that's now down to one of six (or maybe less, who knows...

)
You know what though...the pickguard shape doesn't look quite right to me...you should get him to knock a couple hundred off for that...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190790392145? ... 1423.l2649
Re: NAMM 2013
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:30 am
by electrofaro
Biggest flaw I can see is the f-hole... always has been out of place on any RIC 300er series guitar!

Re: NAMM 2013
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:36 am
by k43rover
Electrostring wrote:Biggest flaw I can see is the f-hole... always has been out of place on any RIC 300er series guitar!

Oh I see...so in spite of your earlier negative comments about modifying the guitar, even in its original factory format it has little appeal for you...kinda makes me wonder why you bother posting in the first place....

Re: NAMM 2013
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:39 am
by stringsncords
This thread has had 2,000 VIEWS since the start of the NAMM Show.
DAY-YUM!
Re: NAMM 2013
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:42 am
by sloop_john_b
Eddie - I love that you went with the 12'er headstock on the "sixer" as well.

Re: NAMM 2013
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:45 am
by electrofaro
k43rover wrote:kinda makes me wonder why you bother posting in the first place....

One could say the same about your dozen look-at-what-I-did-refin-look-at-me-!!! posts, eh
I prefer slash- over f-hole. Still, the white limited run is a nice item as is.