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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:30 am
by edski
I would expect a deeper tone on the Red one Joey...an interesting sound might come from having the the PU placement of the Red on for the neck, and the Maple one's bridge PU placement...
Recently I've been intrigued by the subject of PU placement, as IMO it's probably a major factor in how any particulare bass sounds. The Maple Cii above looks to have about the same placement as my Laredo and 75 4001 - neck PU at approximately 75% of the scale length, and bridge PU at about 90%...
The Red Cii above has about 71%/87%...we all know if you play with your fingers you can get a subltly deeper tome playing closer to the neck...the PU's work the same way...
Just for comparison, my Jazz Bass PU's are at about 83% and 93%, which gives it a more trebly tone based soley on PU placement. Obviously many other factors (wood, electronics, strings) play a role, but with all else being equal (or close to equal like those 2 Cii/5's) the further away from the bridge the PU's are the more of the lower frequency harmonics that the PU will reproduce.
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:30 am
by teeder
"It's a long-standing wish of some of us to have a 4001v68 produced. That's all I know."
That about sums it up.
The unbound versions of the great 4001 have been covered very well.
I have a V63 that is lonely. The perfect mate would be to have a checker bound, full-length inlay, walnut wing peg-head, toaster, horseshoe (or hi-gain), split tailpiece, finger rest, version of the 4001, with a modern truss rod system! Did I miss anything?
Make mine in Fireglo with some figured maple, thank you very much!

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:37 am
by atomic_punk
Kevin, AMEN! If they made it, it would sell out in a heartbeat.
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:46 am
by aceonbass
Yes Kevin, you did miss a couple things. Don't forget the vintage gold pickguard and truss rod cover, low impedence output jack and checker bound headstock.
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:06 am
by johnhall
Steve, everything is already totally sold out, 420 production days now on the books and climbing. What would this bring us (other than your happiness)?
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:12 am
by edski
14 month production backlog?
Whoa, am I glad I found my new bass when I did!

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:22 am
by bottom4
The man said 420 production days! That CAN be way more than 14 months!
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:40 am
by highway_star
"What would this bring us (other than your happiness)?"
It could make your wife happier?
I'd put a deposit on a v68 and gladly wait 18 months to get one.
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:58 am
by edski
***The man said 420 production days! That CAN be way more than 14 months!***
I guess, if they take days off.

If I were in JH's position it'd be time for cranking up 2 shifts and mandatory OT!

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:06 am
by johnhall
There's about 200 production days per year and there's lotsa overtime already.
There's almost no chance for a second shift for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that skilled workers and supervisors are becoming very difficult to find in our expensive part of the country. (Thank you "The O.C.")
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:10 am
by edski
OUCH!!!!!!!!!
What do you guys do the other half of the year! (just kidding)
Really glad I just scored that 2004 Laredo now!
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:11 am
by wayang
Yeah, if you're good with your hands, a cabin in Montana starts sounding pretty good...
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:28 am
by highway_star
Nonetheless Mr. Hall, I'm glad you're putting quality over quantity. I don't think we can gripe about the wait time knowing that we're getting a great instrument.
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:04 am
by teeder
"everything is already totally sold out, 420 production days now on the books and climbing."
That's OK, I can wait! Just ask my wife. She'll say I can for years!
"Nonetheless Mr. Hall, I'm glad you're putting quality over quantity. I don't think we can gripe about the wait time knowing that we're getting a great instrument."
I second that!