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Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 8:01 am
by rictified
Those are great wedding songs Jeff. Mississippi Queen is another.

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 10:37 am
by alanz
Just play songs with E A and D: "What I Like About You" morphs into "R.O.C.K in the USA" and then into "And She Was."

Bingo.

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 3:07 am
by edski
Hehe...

We are working on White Wedding...we do Rebel Yell and WW is about 90% the same song IMO.

Seems like a bunch of the tunes we've learned recently are in F, based off a C: Sharp Dressed Man, Can't Get Enough, Takin' Care of Business. They were all basically one take tunes, and basically are the same song. Really angers me people can make millions off of dreck like that.

What I Like About You is another recent addition. Personally I like to stay away from **** like that, but playing in bars I suppose you need that sort of filler.

Decided last night the primary requirement for the next drummer I work with is that they have to be able to use brushes effectively, and be able to switch mid-tune from sticks to brushes back to sticks with no radical discontinuities in dynamics.

Basically, I need a jazz drummer to play rock. I need Bill Bruford. Image Without the attitude. LOL

Seriously...I want to play in a band that doesn't have to be ear-splitting all the friggin' time. In reality it's the drummers that drive that train. I recently saw a clinic by Jeff Berlin, and the drummer he was working with was able to play QUIETLY. Was nice to actually see, because, by extension, that means there are SOME drummers out there who can do that.

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 5:14 am
by jwr2
my band is not a wedding band ... we did do a wedding ... we only learned one new song ... all of the other cheesy songs we handeled by a dj ...

ya some drummers can't play quietly ... I played in one band where the drummer had a huge drum set and he played from the shoulder ... every single hit was high impact ... he could drown out a full marshall stack ... I had to quit that band ...

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 6:09 am
by rictified
I played with a drummer who would automatically slow down when he played quietly, haha! He was deafening most of the time. I played with one other drummer years ago who used to drown out a double SVT set up and a 50 watt Marshall (on my side) regularly. The guy I play with now has some dynamics and is a great drummer, a little nutty but I can put up with that because he's really good.

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 6:28 am
by jwr2
yep ... a too loud drummer can ruin a band ... and drummers who slow down are deadly ... AARRGGHH!!!

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 6:33 am
by thinneckricks
Thats why God invented V DRUMS lol . Its hard to tollerate a drummer with bad meter . I know i cant

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 6:49 am
by rictified
Yeah, I think I'd rather play with a drummer who speeds up a little than with one who slows down. One with good meter is even better.

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 8:00 am
by ken_swearingen
I used to play with a guitarist who was perfect pitch hit any note he could tell you what note it was without looking,he also played drums he was so easy to play with cause he listened to everything as a whole,he could play bass,drums,guitar,keyboards,so he knew what things were supposed to sound like.

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 9:09 am
by rictified
I don't have perfect pitch, I have excellent relative pitch though (can tune perfectly without tuners etc. but can't tell you what the note is except generally, but I find the key quicker than you can tell me). I think listening to the whole band while you are playing is very important, got to play together as a whole.

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 1:34 pm
by bigbajo60
Drummers... hmmmph!

Anyone who's going to take up drumming should be made to learn to play bass first. That way when they pick up the sticks, they'll at least have a point of reference when it comes to knowing what is musical and what is not!Image

P.S. - Can you tell I play with a *QUOTE* DRUMMER *UNQUOTE*?Image

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 5:26 pm
by atomic_punk
One thing that helps me is that I also play drums, so I can "hear" things he is going to do before he does them because I can think like a drummer. It also helps me lock in with his bass drum. I often know the tempos better than anyone else! Image

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 2:38 pm
by ken_swearingen
my buddy John uses a metronome when he practices,makes for keeping good time.

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 5:17 pm
by jwr2
I have a drum machine ...

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 7:25 am
by wayang
A good rule of thumb...if the drummer uses a torque wrench to set up and then puts sweatbands on his wrists and head, you probably don't want to play with him...

(My apologies to Carl Palmer fans everywhere...)