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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:30 pm
by rictified
haha! I never had that one, Survival had "Feeling all right" as a semi hit on it
I always liked that double Live Humble Pie album with "I don't Need no doctor" on it.
Yeah I agree the labels are ambiguous and subjective also.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:13 pm
by jwr2
I don't need no doctor ... good bass part ...
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:24 pm
by charlyg
This may deserve a thread, maybe not. Back in the day, my fav bass players were Felix Papallardi(sp?)from Mountain and Rick Grech, from Blind Faith and Traffic. So was I weird?
Now I would add Lee Sklar. I saw him live a few years ago with a band called Barefoot Servants and he ROCKED!
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:30 pm
by charlyg
Sorry to hog the thread but I just remembered that we did Rock and Roll Stew in that Navy band I was in. What a bass line! I know it's pretty simple but I love the syncopation! Oh and GF's version of Feelin Alright. The guitar player had to do that thing with the volume controls!
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:37 am
by cheyenne
Kevin, since I dont think anyone else has asked, what type of load were you running with the two cabinets? B2's are not made to run anything lower than 4 ohms.
2-8 ohm cabs would give you a 4 ohm load, which would be your maximum power output with the B2.
2-4 ohm cabs however, would drag you down to a 2 ohm load, and would probably shut your amp down.
I've been noticing that alot of the new amps being made nowdays, are capable of handling 2 ohm loads.
If you dont have alot of money to spend, try Carvin amps. I have a R1000 in my main rack that I've gigged with for going on 4 years now with no problems whatsoever. Plenty of headroom, lots of tonal options, and compression. The only problem I've encountered with Carvin is the resale value, If you buy any of their products you better be prepared to keep it, because for some reason you cant hardly give them away.
Good middle of the road stuff though (my 2 cents worth).
I agree with Jeff also, if you are a gigging bassist, carry a spare if you can.
www.carvin.com
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:17 am
by jps
Humble Pie was the first major rock band I saw in concert, they were one of my favorite bands back then.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:52 am
by teeder
Scott,
I use two 8 ohm Ampeg cabinets, a 2X10 and a 1X15.
It's got a great sound.
I will probably go with the new Ampeg B2RE. It has the same features that I like, and is now 450 watts instead of 350.
I like the extra headroom, and it's only $579.00 new.
As Grand Funk goes, I've liked them for a long time, but unfortunately I wasn't old enough to see them in their prime. I did catch them in the mid 90' with the original line-up, and they Rocked! Farner was very energetic, and put on a great show!
Humple Pie's live album is a real classic. I have that disc in my truck right now.
It's one of my all time favorite live albums.
Along with Live at Leeds (my personal favorite),
Get Yer Ya Ya's Out (Love the Mick Taylor years), the Allman's Live at the Fillmore, and The Song Remains the Same (Jonesy's great!).
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:57 am
by rictified
Great albums Kevin. especially Ya Ya's out, that's my favorite live album, it's like being in the front row.
I also loved Pappalardi, I saw Mountian twice. Rick Gretch didn't do a lot for me back then, but when I listen to that album today I realize he was a lot better than I though, he wasn't a lead bass player, was kind of understated.
I don't understand why Ampeg didn't make that head capable of running 2 ohm loads, they make so many 4 ohm cabs, I actually considered buying one of those as a light spare to leave in my trunk until I saw that 4 ohm limit which I consider a serious liabilty.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:44 am
by charlyg
That's the style I like. Get in the groove, be a pocket player not the focus(lead)..Kinda like the difference between guitar players Alvin Lee and BB King. I love both of them but BB could say more with three notes than Alvin could say in 100.....
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:55 am
by teeder
Bob,
Years ago I saw a movie of the Stones in concert. I think it was called Ladies and Gentlemen the Rolling Stones.
Anyway the picture quality was bad, but it was from 1972 right after Exile came out.
What a great band!
I wish they would release that on DVD.
The B2RE with the 6X10 cabinet would be a great "light spare" rig. Or a great full sized rig for that matter

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:07 am
by 4003360man
I hope no one laughs to hard at me for this, but immediately buy a Behringer 300W bass head. It sells for $199.99 on Musicians Friend.
For the money, you can't go wrong with this as a starter Head or as a back-up. And given the problems one can have with used equipment, especially heads, you'd be better off buying a new Behringer Head than spending the same amount on a used "name brand".
If you're gonna buy used, make it a cabinet, not a head.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:03 am
by rictified
Charlie, I was young and stupid then I equated many notes with talent, I am just the opposite now. I'm pretty much a groove player now also.
300 watt head for 199.99? What rating is that? peak peak peak? I didn't laugh. I play with a guitar player once in a while who has a Behringer amp, one of those digital things, it's certainly loud enough I'll say that. This guy could make anything sound good, it sounds pretty good with no effects when he turns on the wierdness in it, we all roll our eyes and endure it.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:16 am
by edski
I'll chime in about the Behringer...
It's good, not great. For the $240 I paid for it (with tax) it's been certainly worth it. IMO my old Carvin PB300 was a crisper tone, but this head does the job well enough.
The 300 W I *believe* is RMS, with a 4 ohm load. I'll have to dig around and find the users manual to check, but it has not lacked for volume.
It came with a footswitch to turn on two features...a shape filter (which I find rather useless) and the "sub-harmonics" which is like a low octaver. That one is somewhat useful, but with my 2x10 cabinet it doesn't handle the low frequencies much below the A...
There are bright and bass boost switches...the bass boost might have been more useful to have on the footswitch, but recently I realized that I have more tonal flexibility from my laredo without the bass boost.
The EQ is a 5 band knob system. The frequency center for each knob is a bit of a mystery - one says 140 Hz, another 1.6 KHz, but the other 3 say Low Mid and High...I suspect they are close to 50, 140, 500, 1600, and 4000 Hz...
If you are an amp snob, you'll probably not like it...if you have ethical issues with Behringer, buy somethign more expensive. If you are on a budget and need the power, it's good bang for the buck.
BTW, you can find them new on eBay for about $175 BIN, and sometime some of the on-line stores have scratch and dents for as low as $150.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:21 pm
by rictified
What ethical issues are we supposed ot have with them?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:57 pm
by incubus2432
They pretty much rip off designs of companies that have invested alot of time/money to develop their own product. As an example look at their V-Bass effects processor......it is a blatant rip off of the Bass Pod by Line6. It is the same kind of thing with their amps.
It's kind of like the Ric knockoffs but for amps/processors...