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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:39 am
by jingle_jangle
Or unsophisicated music, that to unsympathetic ears, sounded like a row...

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:26 am
by admin
I am inclined to think that you are on the right track Paul. Unsavoury or non-conventional music with the addition of too much partying may indeed have resembled a row or certailny sounded like one. An aberration leading to a new style of music. While we are on the subject of celebration, Happy 4th.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:05 am
by jingle_jangle
Sounds just like blues to me.

Oh, and rock 'n' roll, too.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:12 am
by admin
Yes, blues with a washboard, kazoo, tea chest, jug and some items from your workbench thrown in. Yes sir, you had to be a real craftsman to play in the Skiffle Bands. Hammering out those tunes was no easy task.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:13 am
by rictified
Sounds like country music to me. I still think Merton missed the meaning of that experience it's like Christianity all over again except for idolizing statues they idolize airplane parts, both are waiting for their respective saviours to return: Christ and big bird, haha! The parts are symbols of their long awaited savior, that is not materialistic to me. I was born and baptised Catholic BTW so I'm not criticing something that I'm not a part of.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:19 am
by admin
I suppose that by replacing the rhythm section with a washboard and jug and the brass with voices this may sound more rustic and folklike or country. What I enjoy about the philosophy this music is that it allows for the participation of many.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:27 am
by rictified
grass roots music.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:49 am
by jingle_jangle
Bob, that is another angle that is of course open to the skeptic's interpretation.

Back to the topic:

To my mind and ear, there is little as powerful as indigenous music, played by people who feel--and damn the 64th note runs!

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:48 pm
by rictified
I think it pays to be skeptical, in fact that is the foundation of scientific inquiry isn't it?. Yeah I hear everything in it country, blues, and rock n roll.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:52 pm
by brammy
>>>>Yeah I hear everything in it country, blues, and rock n roll.

yup, me too.... and bluegrass also. Not my cup of tea.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:35 pm
by jingle_jangle
It's the banjo, Kent. Without banjo=no Beatles. A necessary evil.

I prefer bagpipes to banjo, personally, for sound. Maybe because bagpipes remind me of Keystone, Colorado (good), and the banjo reminds me of--

Garrison Keillor.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:17 am
by brammy
No banjo=no Beatles.... yup, I guess that is very true in a Lennony sort of way.

I was thinking of one aspect of the legend of Beatle creation that never gets any attention. When speaking of how the group was formed, focus is always placed on the Quarrymen and how John met Paul and how Paul then brought his friend George to meet John.

But few people realize that Paul and George were already playing guitar together before that fateful day at the Woolton Fete.

It is certainly correct to see the Quarrymen as the embryo group that developed into the Beatles, but is another way, you can think of it as John and his group who made contact with another ongoing (albeit less organized than John's) musical effort .... the duo of Paul and George.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:32 am
by jingle_jangle
And made a band with two leaders, which eventually became one with two and three-quarters leaders, and fell apart when it ceased to be fun and the money was no longer an incentive.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:41 am
by brammy
true.... and there were a number of mini Beatle "breakups" before the Paul/Alan Klein mess. George in particular almost quit on a few occasions. "That's it. I'm no longer a Beatle", said George after their last concert.