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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:05 pm
by ken_j
Hire a teenager while they still know everything.

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:34 pm
by jingle_jangle
Nattie, respect your elders.

Or you'll turn into them.

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:22 pm
by jwilli
How true....

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:48 pm
by alanz
I own a 1986 Yamaha BX-5. It looks like a Steinberger but with a stretched out and very skinny Explorer-like arm jutting out on the top of the body. 24 frets, too. I have to say it is extremely light and it plays quite well, but the headless design tuners are a bit difficult to twist accurately.

It looks like it should have been on that huge 1987 Depeche Mode World Tour, the one that filled the Rose Bowl. So very 80's.

So, no automatic "Yuck! Headless!" from me on this.

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:30 pm
by jingle_jangle
Oh, c'mon, Alan! Depeche Mode and headless? And some say the '70s were bad?

How much black eye shadow and Valium can one band consume?

So you can join us in a big, resounding "BLEEECCCCHHHHHH!"

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:58 pm
by sowhat
Have no doubt about it Aitch, and something tells me his Dad wouldn't stand this monster in his house... 8-)
BTW, IMHO, Ed cannot be compared to the "rich man" - the latter is just unbeatable! 8-)

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:44 pm
by nattiep
"Nattie, respect your elders."

Why should I? You "elders" are not respecting my opinions and feelings about the old Steinberger basses. Yes, I am young, but I am one of the ones that admit I don't know it all.

I do not approve of Ed destroying the Rickenbackers, but am I not allowed to like the old L2 basses? I'd actually buy one of those in the future if I had the money. It'd be quite nice on a very cramped stage...

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:10 am
by sowhat
Nate, sometimes we "elders" become too cynical with age (now look who's talkin' 8-)).
In fact my kid loved them all - well except for a couple, so you're not alone...
BTW... can anybody tell me how a "headless" guitar/bass can be tuned? Where's the pegs? Sorry for such a stupid question, but i've only played "headed" acoustics and know nothing about it (waah on me).

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:54 am
by nattiep
The tuners are at the bridge.. I'm not that familiar with them, but they have double ball head strings.. or something like that.. and they're tuned at the bridge.

Sorry to be kind of rude there guys.. but I got annoyed. Plus I've had a rough day and have had a short fuse most of the afternoon.

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:44 am
by ozover50
Hey Nate! You can like anything you want and have an opinion on anything you want. It's all good!

Certainly the Steinbergers are interesting and will no doubt hold a place in the archives as at least that - 'interesting'.

I have an Ibanez that has fine tuners at the bridge and they work well. It also has hundreds of springs, levers, plates, nuts and bolts all over the place! The sales guy told me it's a 'Floyd Rose locking tremelo'..... I took his word for it!

"Rough day and a short fuse most of the afternoon". Hmmmmm..... wait 'til you get to our age... you ain't seen nuthin' yet!!

If it were a "short day and a rough fuse" it would be a different story. Image

Peace, Master Peace.......

BTW, I don't think Ed destroys Rickenbackers to produce those ugly monstrosities, so don't start writing to your local MP just yet. I reckon he throws a chunk of wood into a barrel of trained white ants and that's the way they come out. Then the aardvarks put on the binding. Next is the team of brush-tailed possums in the paint shop, followed by the three-toed sloths in the electrical department...... etc. etc....

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:33 am
by mr4000
Rick Derringer is still a great guitarist. Maybe his taste in guitars went south for a hot minute...

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:41 am
by jingle_jangle
Hey, Nattie, part of getting older ( I almost said "growing up") is gaining the perspective to not take things literally.

My comment to "respect your elders" was meant in a gently jibing way. and, taken in the jocular mood of this thread, should have been obviously so.

Whippersnapper...

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:33 am
by wayang
You should respect your elders, Nate (well, the good ones like us, anyway)...

I'm about to begin teaching drum lessons to a sixteen year old guy who I've known since he was four. He's very talented and an excellent 'dude'...but if he gets out of line I'm just gonna bring up how much he used to love 'Barney'...

Oh, not really...I'm not that mean in person...the point is, older people see what you younger cats are going through and think 'oh, yeah, I remember exactly what that's like'...even the part about having to deal with 'old f*rts and their attitudes'...(smiley vigorously suppressed)...

Wisenheimer...

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:56 am
by atomic_punk
Nate, I tried out my buddy's one, and thought it would be good as a backup to take to gigs, turns out every time I took it, I needed it because I broke a string or lost a straplock, etc. so I stopped taking it.
Plays nice, but the tone is really sterile, to me anyway. I was amazed at the full 2-octave neck, I was sliding down to play a note way down the board, and had to pull up since it has a lot more range than a T-bird or Ric. Didn't really care for the tone, though.

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:24 am
by sowhat
BTW... somebody once said (don't remember who exactly), "our kids are older than us because they were born later than we were"... hey guys, being young is not bad! anyway, we "youth" (well, yes i consider myself a "youth", at least i seem to be the youngest in the Classics section and the Searchers forum 8-) can learn from you, and that's so luvvlee!
Nate, Steve: thanks a lot for the information! Now one more puzzle in my life is solved... 8-)