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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:16 pm
by mgauction
That was an excellent observation, Harley! Three cheers for your response!!! I get the feeling that most of us responding on this thread are “children from the sixties.” It is very refreshing to hear from another generation that has another point of view. Unfortunately I do not have the patience, tolerance etc. to listen to most of the music today. Call it a lack of combination of songwriting, music and production that I just can’t listen to in the music today. Maybe that’s my problem. Maybe I feel spoiled in my generation. There is a different ear out there today that rules the trends and radio stations. I also hope that 20 years from now the good songwriters that you endorse are well remembered. It will be very interesting to see what bands and singers will be pushed back into the limelight, for a tour or even a moment. Certainly we have seen several from the 1960s & 70s that expressed our hopes and dreams from those years, and still do. You’re right – the future is up for grabs for any kind of invasion or trend. Let the cards fall in whatever way they happen to fall. That will be the magic of that trend.

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:47 pm
by harley
The thing that will, I hope, really make a difference in the future of music is the distribution mechanisms that are starting to develop. There will always be a place for the "major labels" but you're also beginning to see bands go directly to their fans and selling things that way.

Imagine what the Beatles could have done with the concept of legal downloads of their music purchased directly from them.

No Allen Klein, that's for certain, and since arguing over money was one of the reasons why they broke up, maybe they'd have lasted longer. Who knows? But the speculation is interesting.

Getting back to one of the original questions of this thread, perhaps the next invasion will be internet-enabled. With the advent of self-distribution and relatively inexpensive recording capability, we may be getting closer to the original intent of Apple. The ability to be creative without getting on your knees to someone in some office (as John said at the New York announcement).

Even now, I could write, record and distribute music over the internet without ever having to talk to the "money men" of a record company. Admittedly, I'm not likely to meet with the same financial success that Britney Spears has achieved, but I could do it.

Ultimately, isn't the "I could do it myself" the same attitude that Lonnie Donegan kick started in England?

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:35 pm
by rictified
Incidently "Wooster" Ma. is spelled Worcester and I think it was right from the beginning as it got it's name from a city in England, it's about 5 minutes up the road from me, 2nd largest city in New england.

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:43 pm
by rictified
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:08 pm
by brammy
Actually, back in 1739 it was spelled "Wooster".

It didn't take on the modern spelling until the fall of 1779 when it was invaded by a band of poor spelling British regulars. The following spring the King's troops were expelled in the famous "Battle of Worstchester".

History is like that... it can be very saucy.

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:01 am
by royclough
Bob

Your observation on rap (pseudonym for **** in my view) is spot on. some of you across the pond may have heard of the Eurovision Song Contest, which used to be taken seriously and did have UK artists of some stature representing the UK at one time, likes of Cliff Richard(twice),Lulu, Shadows and it is of course the contest that first brought Abba and Celine Dion to the fore.


Over the years the UK entry has been down to new acts or acts trying to revive a career that has hit the skids.

On Saturday we had 6 songs from which the public rang to chose the song to represent the UK, not that it means anything now, UK has no Chance of winning because rest of Europe don't like the UK if truth be told.

However the song that one to my amazement was a rap song absolute rubbish but perhaps that is age coming into play here, I don't get rap, must be missing something.

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:07 am
by sowhat
And Eurovision is synonymous to...?Image
Duh... sorry.
Okay, rap can be funny - sometimes...

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:56 am
by leftyguitars
The Eurovision song contest is a farce and we (Great Britain) will not win it in the forseeable future because,

A, It is seen by some countries as a way to P*ss off other countries who you don't agree with politically (and nobody likes us for various reasons).

B, Some countries form "pacts" with their friends and only vote for them regardless of what **** they enter (and we have no friends).

C, Our choice of songs in the last few years has been absolutely dire. The rubbish that we enter is so bad that no one would vote for us even if they did like us!

Disclaimer - These are are my personal rants and in no way are to be taken seriously!!!

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:10 am
by royclough
More or less summed it up Peter. Here's one for you, no looking it up now, who was the first UK singer to win the thing and who was the last.

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:12 am
by randyz
Peter: Song contests mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. As a person, it's nice to liked. As a nation, it is better to be respected for your power and influence.

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:39 am
by rictified
Roy can you repost my original post? I deleted it last night because I thought it was off-topic but I too think it's a valid point. All I'm getting is a b where I posted it.
I can't find any reference to a Wooster Ma. All I find is that is was named after Worcester, England, was originally called Quinsigamond Plantation and became a city in 1848.

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:40 am
by leftyguitars
First, err, Cliff? No it was before that. Someone like Sandie Shaw? - I fell in love with her. The last one? I've no idea (I'm proud to say).

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:43 am
by leftyguitars
Randy, It is mutual over here, Europe doesn't like us and we don't particularly like them either! I don't know who's bright idea it was to build a tunnel!!!

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:47 am
by royclough
Afraid not Bob, Peter probably can.

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:51 am
by royclough
Sandie Shaw correct, last Katrina and The Waves or was it just Katrina, she's American anyway I think. Right about the Tunnel, I am no historian but part of reason we were not invaded was that Hitler could not just march in. But let's not get off track eh.