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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 4:20 pm
by jps
...they do.
The RI horseshoe pickup uses Alnico magnet slugs in the bobbin in place of pole pieces, not the rubberized magnets under the bobbin.
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:41 pm
by jwr2
my 73 had a plastic base ... as did my 74 ...
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:55 pm
by johnallg
Jps - are you talking about the reissues or the origionals? Do you know the reissue winding resistance?
"The RI horseshoe pickup uses Alnico magnet slugs in the bobbin in place of pole pieces, not the rubberized magnets under the bobbin."
Hate to sound anal, but in the hinderland of SW Michigan we don't see any old Ricks nor 4001V63s either.
BTW, my daughter is in Erie and I emailed her about your gig tomorrow. Being tonight is Friday and she's 25 I didn't get a reply yet!
Go figure!
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:32 pm
by ben_brown
Hi guys....This may be off topic but here goes.
I've been searching for my first Ric bass and I need some insight. I'm looking at a new 4003 that comes with a factory installed vintage scatter wound toaster neck pup option. Is this a good choice with the newer bridge high gain pup? How does the 'new' vintage neck pup compare to the new high gains? Is this a good combination?
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:36 pm
by jnbass
depends on your taste, or tone requirements
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:58 pm
by cerrem
My opinion is that the new toaster for neck position is just too weak... It is at 7.4K and maybe good for guitar but just doen't have have the punch or deepeness I would need for a neck position in a bass...Note that it has 6-POLES by the way...the 6-string one is the same as the bass one...all toaster pups always had 6-poles.. The new high gain sounds much better to me for bass, alittle on the dark side.. The old original toasters for bass were like 12K.... Buy the toaster and have it rewound to 12K ..I hear that is the ticket... i am in the process of doing that now.. I will report my findings to the forum...
Chris
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:38 pm
by johnallg
Cerrem, are you saying the 60's 4001 toasters were wound to 12k? I had always heard they were the 7.4k windings, and it wasn't until the 80's toasters that they were wound to 12k.
Ben - Having had the high gain on my 4003 and putting a 7.4k on in its place, I found the tone less aggressive though still in the same vein, with a lot more clarity. E string in the first 5 fret positions are now articulate and with note deliniation whereas they had been indistinct with the high gain. F W I W.
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:54 pm
by ben_brown
Ok...tell me this. Is this new 4003 with the toaster and a vintage silver case options worth $1500. All is brand new still in the box from a dealer with full warranty.
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:03 pm
by bobcat
Wouldn't rewinding a reissue toaster to 12K ohms completely change the character of the sound it puts out?
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:40 pm
by headbanger
The old original toaster were 7.4K or there abouts. The reissues from 84 to 2000 were more like 12k. The 2000 onward scatterwounds are as close to the originals as you can get (7.4k)
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:11 am
by jmh
I didn't care for the sound of my factory 2002's toaster. Sounded anemic to me. Having it replaced with a high gain.
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:31 am
by ilan
Bought a reissue toaster-top last year to replace a non-original hi-gain, couldn't be happier. I hardly ever use the treble pickup, usually I just solo the neck toaster. It has "that Ric sound".
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:17 am
by ben_brown
What does the Vintage Toaster option usually cost when you order it with a new RIC?
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:31 am
by ben_brown
I made a mistake earlier. The Toaster option on a new 4003 with a vintage silver case(new) goes for $1395. Does that sound kosher?
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:41 am
by ben_brown
Pickofthericks.com wants $1295 for a standard 4003 with high gains and a plastic case so for another $100.....