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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:05 pm
by atomic_punk
Alisha, that is the 80's Ferrari Red, not Ruby, which has a metallic undercoat. I have a friend of mine who has a 660-12 in that color with black hardware.

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:55 pm
by rickfan60
It probably looks like this...

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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:57 am
by thinneckrick
Well , I just got off the phone with about 5 different stores that have new ricks and all of them said they still have chunky necks ! Im saddened by this . I sure wanted a new one . Fuller vintage instruments told me the ones he has have a Quote, "Modest neck profile" lol . Can you say B.S.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:54 am
by bassduke49
Ted Staberow is measuring as many basses as he can find and there will be a report on thick/thin neck profiles. I think you'll discover that there is no way to predict which years have "thick" or "thin" necks, and the measurements (which very usually within about 1/8" of each other) seem random. I wouldn't let reports of neck thickness put me off buying a model/color/condition bass that I wanted.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:57 am
by leftyguitars
What is the difference between Ruby and Burgundy?

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:00 am
by randyz
Peter: Ruby is dark red over a silver undercoat. Burgundy is dark red. The dark red used is the same color used to shade Fireglo finishes.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:01 am
by leftyguitars
Cheers, Randy.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:27 am
by randyz
Peter: I should point out that Ruby finishes are notoriously prone to checking. Chips and scratches are very obvious with the silver undercoat. With these issues, I stay away from Ruby.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:29 am
by leesh
Ted, You're right. It looks exactly like that. He wants $1300 OBO.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:46 am
by atomic_punk
Jeffrey, I wish you were closer so you could check out my BBR, I dont know how anyone could ever classify this neck as "thick".
Actually, we are playing at the Nugget in Ellsworth on May 21, if you wanna make the trek over, I'll let you check it out. Image

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:52 am
by rickfan60
Alisha: Mine was a lucky score from Ebay about 2 months ago - $750 BIN

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:54 am
by ealdrett
Steve,
You are right. The neck is definitely not thick at all. At least for me. Hence the reason why I'm parting with it.
The 4004Cii are just perfect for my mits.
Can't wait to see the BBR 4004Cii model come out. Anyone have pics of one yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:43 am
by atomic_punk
I like the 4004's also, Edgar. I have played Rath's 4-2-5 conversions and they are perfect for me. I just don't have one yet.
My birthday is on Friday, and I am hoping Jeff will drop his black 4004L off at my desk and say "Happy Birthday". But then again...

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:15 pm
by doctorwho
Peter wrote:
... What is the difference between Ruby and Burgundy? ...
Image4001 Ruby and 4000 FL Burgundy.

With Burgundy one can see the wood grain through the finish, as it is a transparent color; with Ruby having an opaque silver metalflake undercoat, the grain can't be seen.

There is a lot of variation in Ruby, from the bright 'candy apple' red like my 4001 has, to a dark, nearly burgundy red (I have a 330 Ruby like that).

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:06 pm
by delberthot
Another thing that will affect value is rarity. I have a 2005 4003BB which is going to be rarer than a MG, FG, MID or JG but not desert gold, turquoise etc (possibly)