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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 5:55 pm
by jingle_jangle
Wow, Bill. For a stubby guy you sure run deep.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:45 pm
by ozover50
Great post, Bill!

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:01 pm
by rictified
Bill that was a great post. I often post sarcastic one liners which I think are funny but could be misconstrued easily so I have to watch those also. The lack of physical contact does severely hamper communication, leaves you guessing sometimes and I agree we'd probably laugh most of these things off if we knew each other and were in the same room.

Paul, I think I've been working too much, I'm on vacation these two weeks and actually have a little time to myself to think and reflect, my own private Tahiti I think.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:40 am
by sowhat
Nicely put, Bill. One can never be sure that his/her remark will be taken as it was supposed to, even in case of "face-to-face" communication, let alone the web. And it often takes years to get to know other people - and even then, one can never be sure.
I must admit, sometimes it happened to me to get a bit angry at somebody else's comments - it's good that i type slowly & often re-read my messages twice or thrice in search for mistakes, and in the end come to a conclusion no offence was meant in fact & reconsider/cancel my post. Otherwise, methinks, i'd have been banned looooong ago. I'd also like to hope my silly remarks don't hurt others too badly, and if they do - please forgive me, i'll try to be better.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:22 am
by admin
Good points Stubby. The emoticons can at times let others know when there is humour, frustration or bruised feelings. Nonetheless, good intentions can sometimes be missed. Your comments are a reminder that we need to provide latitude to others, as there is variability in our responses.

I am reminded of my post in a newsgroup some time ago, in which I thanked someone for taking the time to answer my question. His reply, "I don't appreciate your sarcasm!" So the road to flames is sometimes paved with good intentions.

As a practical matter, after you make your post, you can still edit it for a period of time by using the "edit icon" in the upper right corner of your post. This has limited value, of course, during peak times when the genie is out of the bottle, but may allow you to set things straight before "the world" reads your post.

It is also worth noting that those who are not registered in the Forum can read your posts, so you may be reaching an audience that is somewhat greater than you think.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:06 am
by sowhat
I am reminded of my post in a newsgroup some time ago, in which I thanked someone for taking the time to answer my question. His reply, "I don't appreciate your sarcasm!" So the road to flames is sometimes paved with good intentions.

Good example, Peter. I remember it took me a couple of months to get used to the fact that "too funny" means what it says, not "that isn't funny, that is stupid", as i thought before (could be because English is a foreign language to me, or could be anything else, but still). All in all, understanding the others is a hard job...Image but it's worth the trouble!Image

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:20 am
by rickfan60
Sheena, you certainly don't write like English is foreign to you. I never would have guessed it.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:55 am
by winston
I have been told in the past that I have a matter of fact writing style (due to my profession I suppose). If I have ever offended anyone on this forum as a result, I do apologize. I have been making an effort to inject more warmth and humor into my posts.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:09 am
by webhead
I believe that we're all adults here and always (from what I have read) post with some sort of tact and what we post is regarded as opinion and no one should take it personally. Unless it's a direct jab at someone, but I don't believe any of us would do that here.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:19 am
by admin
Overall I am in agreement with your Don.

However, not everyone who posts here does so with the same level of openness and sensitivity, hence the need to remove posts when they offend.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:54 am
by doctorwho
That was an excellent bit of eloquence, Bill. Like you, at one point I was involved in a Forum misunderstanding, one that was resolved off-Forum.

One thing with regard to Peter's experience with (mis)interpreted "sarcasm": that reminded me of my ex-wife, who interpreted everything I said in a negative connotation, even though there was no connotation at all implied (walking by an Entrance sign at a drive-in: "That sign reminds me of you. You entrance me." "Are you saying I'm a witch?"). As one can surmise, it got to the point where I would not talk about or say anything for that reason. Even today, I still feel the effects of that behaviour; instead of being spontaneous, I tend to "overthink" what I am going to say.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:42 am
by britye
I admit I have utilized the edit button a few times. I want to add to the forum not take away from it. I have learned so much from the various posts. I really enjoy the company. Thanks Peter for such a great meeting place for us music lovers and Ric fans

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:48 am
by studiotwosession
Maybe no one else has any interest in reviving this thread but as a late reader of it I think it is ironic that no one pointed out that some of the most influential guitarists (not to mention Rickenbacker enthusiasts, George Harrison comes to mind) in the world have publicly expressed their lifelong love of and attraction to guitars in analogies that are purely sexual, and no one seems to have had a problem with it (I will not quote what he said but I don't think any rational member of this forum would find it offensive and many might find it to be true.)

That and of course the fact that rock 'n roll is not only a euphemism for sex but is so often used in sentences that contain it (sex, drugs and rock 'n roll, which is a redundant statement, being perhaps the most well known.)

This of course is a far cry from statements that are sexist or ill willed, which shoundn't be tolerated. But in a world which many people fear has become overly politically correct I don't think the line between guitar talk and sex should be or even can be absolute, at least not realistically, when discussing music made after 1953.

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:48 am
by expomick
Amen! (so to speak...)