2 4-10s or 1 8-10 cab...What's better?

jmh · Post by **jmh** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:52 am

I can relate to the no talent part. Talent is overrated anyway. It's all about the fun and comraderie. I miss that a lot.

gearhed289 · Post by **gearhed289** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:29 am

Ampeg 810s are easier to manage than a lot of people think. As someone else mentioned, you just tilt it back, roll it to the vehicle, tip it on it's side, and slide it in. I went the 410/115 route for a while and found it more of a pain with the bending over/lifting/stacking, etc.
Also, the best modification you can do to an 810 is to add a pair of handles on the bottom of the cab for going up/down stairs.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:53 pm

Yes I agree, I have two B-15T bottoms with wheels and I find it easier to take my 8x10 cabs even though one of them outweigh both 15" cabs together by a considerable amount. I own two square 8x10's and one with the handle. The first one's were made during late 69 and a band you may have heard of called The Rolling Stones road tested them for Ampeg, they had the first five made and used them for both bass and guitar. The Get Yer Ya Ya's Out album was recorded with them which I happen to love, it sounds like there are right in front of you. At Altimont they also had the same set up. 69 SVT's are very rare and worth a lot of bucks.

soundmasterg · Post by **soundmasterg** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:04 pm

Another route you can go is to have a custom cabinet made. I have a cabinet that is the same size as an 8x10, and is made the same as Ampeg's cabinets with the isolated sections, etc., but it has 4x10's and 1x15 in it. I also have different handles on the back, and Marshall style ones on the sides, and wheels on the bottom. It's really easy to move around, and I can run it as a seperate 4x10 at 8 ohms, and a seperate 1x15 at 8 ohms, or both together at 4 ohms. I get a little more bottom than a standard 8x10, yet it is still tight and punchy due to the 4x10's that are there. Including the speakers, it was about half the price of a new Ampeg 8x10.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:06 pm

Ampeg made a cab like that several years ago, was not a big seller and haven't seen any for several years now. The drop off on that cab was higher than an 8 x 10.

jnbass · Post by **jnbass** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:17 am

Ampeg also made a cool 4x8, woulda/shoulda/coulda bought one when I had the chance!

soundmasterg · Post by **soundmasterg** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:10 pm

Bob, are you saying that the bottom frequency on that cabinet was higher than on the standard 8x10 Ampeg cabinet? I've compared mine with an Ampeg one using the LMS system and mine will go down farther than an Ampeg 8x10, although I don't recall the numbers. Maybe mine is better made than theirs or something?

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:02 pm

Maybe haha! I think it went down to 50 cycles which surprised me too unless it was a typo, and the 8 x 10 went down to 40 with a usable bottom of 32. (of course, that's low B on a 5 string.)

soundmasterg · Post by **soundmasterg** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:13 am

It must have been the difference between the speakers, because the 15 I'm using is a really nice one, and the 10's I'm using are the same as Ampeg's. I bet they used a cheapo 15.

On a side note, the Sunn ported and rear-loaded 2x15 goes down to 40hz with a useable level even lower than that. And its pretty flat most of the way up to whereever it started dropping off on the top...I don't recall how high it was. Conrad Sundholm was pretty pleased with himself when we tested one last summer since his original design was just an off the cuff design.

rhampshire · Post by **rhampshire** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:55 am

I'm pretty sure Ampeg did use one of the lower-end eminence 15's in that 1540...

ben_brown · Post by **ben_brown** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:26 am

Did someone say Sunn?

This is for sale is someone want's it. Circa 1973 and original cover with 2 newer EV 15B 400 watt speakers in great shape.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:35 pm

Is that a 2000S cab Ben? When I was a kid I used two of those with JBL D-140's and a 200 watt Marshall Major head, they called us the big wind.
I don't think that was a compliment.

rikk · Post by **rikk** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:42 pm

Bob, is there a way to date an SVT cabnet?

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:48 pm

The only was I know is to take a speaker out and look up the speaker code online. The older ones were flat and had dollies (accessory) and the newer ones had the handle and recessed wheels.

ben_brown · Post by **ben_brown** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:13 pm

That's correct Bob. I remember when a friend of mine bought two of these and a big Sunn tube head in '73 brand new from Washington Music Center in Wheaton, Md. I don't know what happened to the head but I ended up with both cabs. I sold one a couple years back on Ebay for $450 all original. This one had 2 EVs put in it back in the mid 80s.