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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:54 pm
by firstbassman
Michael and Mark G,

Thanks VERY much for the info. A great help and much appreciated. I think I'll keep my eyes open for one. Or MAYBE order one and wait two years for it. After all, I certainly don't have to have a new bass now. (However, having to wait for the anniversary 330 is killing me.)

I Googled 4004s before I posted and the brown one at POTR, I believe, said Sold.

Yes, Michael, I am in NoVA (Fairfax County). So far I've only driven around Richmond on my way to Williamsburg. But I'll keep it in mind, thanks! Same here. If you're ever up my way and want to stop by, let me know.

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:56 pm
by edski
Not all Laredo's have bland colors:

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Jeff Rath might call this a "mecurichrome" glo, but like John Hall stated in another thread (about another bass) the quality of a cheap digital camera doesn't do it justice. It might be a little more pink than the standard FG, but I love it.

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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:15 pm
by rickfan63
That's a beautiful bass!

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:18 pm
by green_us90
The 4004 pups sound darker than 4003 of 4001 pups, no doubt, in my opinion.

But with 500K Vol-VOl-Tone Pots and a .05uf cap, they CAN clank.

I have 2 in my Frickenbird hybrid project, and it has a '95 USA Fender Precision neck (graphite rods) and Roto 66's, that think sounds like a piano!

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:28 pm
by jnbass
Here's a look at the maple sandwich;
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:33 pm
by johnallg
Jared - you're going to go blind if you keep looking at that!

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:48 pm
by jnbass
already have glasses...
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:24 am
by firstbassman
Very handsome equipment guys.

Dave, can you explain a little what you mean by "darker?"

Thanks!

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:24 am
by rikk
Mark, I just posted a comparison between hi-gains and HB1's. Although it is not a 4004 you can hear the difference.
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:06 am
by markbass99
Here's a better shot of the maple/walnut sandwich that Jared referred to.....mmmm delicious!

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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:36 am
by bassduke49
Actually, Jared, the one that you (and I) covet is built differently than the current "sandwich" style. When the first of the Cheyenne IIs came out, they were built like the Cheyenne I with the addition of a maple top (only). The backs looked exactly like the Cheyenne I. Later on, the maple/walnut/maple sandwich, as in Mark's shot, became the production standard. The heavily quilted ones that we've seen in photos appear to be this earlier construction. The one pictured above with the maple fretboard was the prototype of the CII series and lives at the RIC showroom. It was used onstage at the 75th anniversary concerts. All the other CIIs (as far as I can tell) had bubinga fretboards.

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:56 am
by jnbass
yesh!
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:55 am
by green_us90
"Dave, can you explain a little what you mean by "darker?"


More scooped, to my ears the 4004's have less bark and led mids. They do have treble which is brought out with the 500K pots. They are REMARKABLY quiet, powerful, hot piclups. I suspect using a .022uf Cap would help em clank even more!

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:05 am
by jwr2
my 1998 4004ci5 oil finish has a real warm mid voiced growl to it ... it growls better than a p-bass ... it does not have as many highs and lows as a 4003 ... My 1993 4004L-5 has a lot of treble bite and plenty of low end ... with the 1000k pots it has a real Squire bite to it ... but still different than the 4003 ... the 4003 has a classic single coil growl ...

The newer 4004 basses have a bubinga fretboard ... bubinga is a bright sounding wood but maple is brighter ...

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:17 pm
by jps
Here is another view of the sandwiching with the through neck showing.

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