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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:42 am
by charlyg
Well, I put the Chromes on and it is fine with them. I forgot I had the Rumble 60 at work tweaked for mucho bass. With the chromes and a little boost for mids and trebles, it is FINE!!! I like my mids so I am not using the mid scoop button......... I still need the vintage knobs. This one has speed knobs.
With the SVT I may even be able to duplicate something close to Mel's tone on "Inside Looking Out"........although it may take an 8x10 at minimum for that tone. It is most pronounced on that cut. The rest of his stuff just seems like a P bass rocking through tubes!
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:28 am
by charlyg
Since I can't seem to arouse much interest in this EB0 thread, I looked over on the Dudepit, and there is a decent Gibby forum there. However, this may strike some as funny, as all of the EB3 folks can't stand the bridge pup alone. I guess they wouldn't like the RIC clank at all!!!
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:26 am
by rictified
I think the neck pickup alone is OK with a little natural distortion, it may sound different in an EB-0 than it does in an EB-3. I'm not sure, all I know is that all I get with neck alone on my EB-3 is bottom bottom bottom.
Mel Schacter (sp?) used a late 60's J bass and a pick. In fact he's the reason I bought my first Fender, their second album (the red one with Inside Looking Out) had a J bass on the cover.
I like Gibsons though, I have a new Thunderbird and an old EB-3 and have had an EB-2 which sounded much less bottomy than my EB-3's neck pickup alone.
Your EB-0 sounds like an interesting and rare bass.
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:54 am
by charlyg
I'm glad the neck pup is away from the neck, it is not quite as "boomy" IMHO.
At 6:24 if you pause, it is a jazz with a humbucker for the neck pup. At speed I thought it was a pup cover!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x6chChxzV0
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:22 am
by rictified
Yeah, you're right, he got the same exact tone live as he got on the record, one of my all time favorite bass tones. It is probably an EB-0 pickup, that was fairly common back then, I traded an early 70's Tele bass with a big humbucker in it for a 68 P bass in 1977 which had a humbucker next to the neck, they liked bottom back then, haha! The guy I got it from wanted it back so I gave it to him, had to get a new pickguard.
I have heard that moving the humbucker didn't change the tone much on them as it is the pickup itself which is wound to about 25K which gives it the bottom, the mud comes from lousy amps.
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:50 am
by charlyg
I'm glad someone else loves that tone. IT WORKS!!
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:55 am
by rictified
Yup, I like the late 60's fuzz box tone, so many bass players used them back then, Tim Bogart, Jack Casidy, Jack Bruce, Mel Schacter, many more.
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:58 am
by charlyg
So there is a fuzz box involved too. Any particular brand?
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:17 am
by rictified
I don't know I'm just going by the sound, I have read that they use them but have never heard of the type. There weren't that many back then though, and most of them cut the bottom severely. Maybe that is why many of them used the EB-0 pickups?
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:18 am
by charlyg
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:36 pm
by johnallg
Tom Kriss of The James Gang had that same tone on Yer' Album. Another under-rated bass player, IMHO.
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:29 pm
by rictified
Yeah, i love all those old players.