Better late than never

admin · Post by **admin** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:07 pm

I would very much like to hear Albatross. If anyone can share it, it would be appreciated.

ozover50 · Post by **ozover50** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:37 pm

I'll see what I can dig up when I get home from work tonight, Peter.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:56 pm

Early Fleetwood Mac were great, my personal favorite: Green Manalishi, the original version which is hard to find, I think it was only a single although it must be on a CD somewhere.

admin · Post by **admin** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:43 pm

Thanks, Howard.

royclough · Post by **royclough** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:43 pm

Who's Ron! Howard

Einar

No problem at all saying you don't like him, hey some even don't like The Searchers can you believe that.

Some of Hank's/Shadows albums of last 20 years to be honest have in some ways been disappointing even the new album and previous 3/4 are all on a theme, instrumental versions of hits mainly.

But problem HM has and the Shadows had is that they were governed to some degree as to what the record label wanted, the last album they did of original material, Guardian Angel, was in my view brilliant but it bombed in terms of sales, but the record company found when they released albums where public could identify with the songs etc the albums sold very well.

I suppose HM or Shads took the view, better to still have a recording contract rather than nothing.

sowhat · Post by **sowhat** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:51 pm

hey some even don't like The Searchers can you believe that

No, that's impossible!

royclough · Post by **royclough** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:21 am

Einar makes a reference to Mark Knopfler's Local Hero theme. Interestingly,well to me anyway,when Dire Straits palyed a series of gigs at a London venue some years back, the theme was played. But Knopfler brought on stage every night one Hank Marvin!!!

Here is Knopfler's version version and he Shadows version, you pay your money you take your pick as the saying goes, both tracks have individual merit.

MK Version and Shadows version

Here

Here

einar · Post by **einar** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:26 am

Thank you all for all this tolerance!
Bob: Totally agree when comes to early/mid Fleetwood Mac- meaning "Peter Green's FM" with or without Danny Kirwan. I even liked them after Peter left, but still with Kirwan/Jeremy Spencer on board (only mentioning the guitarists concerned). Their Green Manalishi/Rattlesnake shake type material is superb. Very much served by Peter's extraordinary strong voice.
In fact, they recorded a number of melodious instrumentals, not only their early classic Albatross. Titles remembered: Earl Gray (from underrated album Kiln House), World In Harmony, My Dream (from masterpiece Then Play On). Many of those were Danny Kirwan compositions.
Another great guitar driven instrumental is of course Santana's Samba Pa Ti, from the Abraxas album!

royclough · Post by **royclough** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:37 am

Samba Pa Ti is great Einar but apart from one other Santana track called Europe the rest of stuff.to clarify, that I have heard does not interest me.

Ventures made some fine instros and still making them too, their style varies tremendously too listen to New Testament album and then perhaps an album like Knock Me Out,one would not think it was same group.

One of the first instros I bought and still love 45 years on was The Rocket Man by The Spotnicks - who you will be well aware of Einar,great anyone want it.

admin · Post by **admin** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:38 am

Do you have your crystal ball at the ready, Roy?

royclough · Post by **royclough** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:55 am

Indeed I have, some of you perhaps Sheena may know that the track is based on, I think a Russian song or tune, original title Samovar.

click Here

Spotnicks of course and I will stand corrected by you experts were one of the first groups to use transistorised guitars i.e no leads.

Their gimmick was to wear Spacesuits and large Space helmets must have been a nightmare, they soon saw error of their ways though.

If Shadows had Hank Marvin than Spotnicks had Bo Winberg, a form of the band still gigging today and to my way of thinking and I unlike most on here, am not a guitar player, you don't survive 47 years without talent.

Here's a little poser for you all there is a tenuous connection between he Spotnicks and the Beatles - What is it.

sowhat · Post by **sowhat** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:10 am

Well, actually the original song is called "Polushko-pole", which is in fact very far from "Samovar".

If anybody wants to hear the version we here got used to, it's here, the 2nd song among the three. (Nevermind the vid

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royclough · Post by **royclough** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:37 am

Great Sheena in fact to the right there is a great vid of Spotnicks doing Rocket Man never seen that.

I get the Samovar from two versions one by the Ventures and other by The Krew Kats, they just probably called it that instead of Rocket Man, neither version as good as Spotnicks IMO.

sowhat · Post by **sowhat** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:55 am

Probably because samovar is one of the things which are generally associated with our country, and "Polushko-pole" is a construction which is hard to translate.

einar · Post by **einar** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:35 am

Roy: I liked Santana's Abraxas album as a whole, back in the early seventies. I think it was their second album, even featured Black Magic Woman. Since then, their music and I have grown apart!
Spotnicks- were they Swedes? At least some of them, I think. In Norway they had a radio hit which they even sang on: Blue Blue Day.