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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:29 am
by teeder
Wow, you must have had some heavy F****rs!
My JB is a feather compared to the V63's.

I didn't get any pictures last night. I'll try to take some this weekend.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:42 am
by heinpete
...only the early '70ies 4001 had some considerably "lighter" series, the rest of the 4001/3 is quite a bit heavier than the 4004 series.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:24 am
by geddeeee
A lot of people think the Rick is a heavy bass. I disagree entirely. Not only does it feel light, but it plays like a dream. It's the only bass that I've owned that doesn't give me arm ache.
The secret is a good wide leather strap. It spreads the load nicely.
J and P basses ARE heavy. The old ones, not the puny newer versions

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:52 am
by Lost Coyotes
You know what's fun...play a 70's boat anchor J bass then strap on a 4004 for the last set or 2.
You feel like your holding a feather.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:37 am
by gothbin
I have the hipshot bridge and I like it very much, better then the stock one. The looks of the original was better though, but you can't have it all. Intonation and sustain is better now.

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:45 am
by teeder
"J and P basses ARE heavy. The old ones, not the puny newer versions"

I don't know about that. My JB is pretty old and the only 4001-4003 I've felt that was lighter was the '72 I had for a while.
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:55 am
by geddeeee
My 2004 Monty 4003 is very light. I've no complaints. Since getting it my playing has got better and better.
All the J and P's I've owned have been 'hefty' to say the least. Great tone from the Precision. Probably cos of all that wood. Disappointed with J basses. Great growl, no real definition. Pretty generic IMO.
Again YMMV with a lot of these points....

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:02 am
by jps
Are we talking alder or ash Fenders? That will make a difference, plus the older basses tend to be lighter, perhaps due to the moisture content of the wood to some extent.

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:13 am
by kcole4001
I had a Japanese P (1991?) that was quite light, the '71 Tele bass I had was light, but the mid '70's ash P I played once weighed at least 12 lbs.!

My '77 4001 is pretty heavy, but my '76 4000 is ultra light.

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:15 am
by Lost Coyotes
I've had J basses well into 11+ pounds, the most recent was a Geddy bass.
The one I held onto, though, is around 9 pounds, which still seems heavier than my 4003- 4001.
The 4004 is a blessing compared with anything else I have.

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:51 am
by geddeeee
I would say my Rick is about 10 pounds with the Hipshot bridge on.
I still consider it to be light. Maybe it's just because it's such a joy to play. Having the wider strap certainly helps.
I played with my band for about 8 hours straight when we were practicing for a crucial gig. After all that I still felt as fresh as a daisy. My arms , hands and wrists felt great. Whenever I played my J bass for longer than an hour, I had to sit down. My right shoulder ached forever. And that's just my picking arm.
Thankfully those days are behind me, as I play exclusively my Monty 4003. I won't ever change to another make. I've tried most of 'em.
Finally I've come home!!!

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:03 pm
by jps
...I still felt as fresh as a daisy.


Did someone say Daisy?

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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:04 pm
by jps
The 4004 is a blessing compared with anything else I have.


Try a '60s 4005WB sometime, makes a 4004 feel heavy. Image

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:41 pm
by bob_atherton
I found my '73 4000 was a bit too light with a touch of neck dive. I've fixed this by packing some lead in the control cavity! It now feels perfect.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:35 pm
by heinpete
...isn't the 4005 a neck diver too?