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rickenbrother wrote:It was about 8 years ago when you could buy a 4002 for $800.

*swoons*

Thanks for posting, Ric N., very interesting stuff. And congratulations on the collection.

About the horseshoe, do you think the covers are shaped differently, or just positioned differently?

bluewhale wrote:Thanks for posting, Ric N., very interesting stuff. And congratulations on the collection.

About the horseshoe, do you think the covers are shaped differently, or just positioned differently?

+1
Having just purchased a Fireglo C64, I am enjoying learning more about my new baby from this informative thread.
Also, which version is most like an actual 1964 horseshoe?
And please forgive my lack of expertise here, but are the covers simply covers (removable?), or they actually an extension of the pickup magnet?

superdick2112 wrote:

bluewhale wrote:Thanks for posting, Ric N., very interesting stuff. And congratulations on the collection.

About the horseshoe, do you think the covers are shaped differently, or just positioned differently?

+1
Having just purchased a Fireglo C64, I am enjoying learning more about my new baby from this informative thread.
Also, which version is most like an actual 1964 horseshoe?
And please forgive my lack of expertise here, but are the covers simply covers (removable?), or they actually an extension of the pickup magnet?

Here are some really cool and informative threads regarding the horseshoe and high-gain pickups, covers and all!

It's my understanding that you can remove the metal cover (plastic on the high-gain) without it impeding the sound/tone quality. They are more for show than function, unlike the originals from way back in the day.

Original Horseshoe Pickup
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=966&p=966&hilit=hor ... ickup#p966
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84394&p=84394&hilit ... kup#p84394

Rickenbacker Bass Models, A history/list
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20652&p=20652&hilit ... kup#p20652

Pickups/Covers
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22466&hilit=horsesh ... p&start=15
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34594&p=34970&hilit ... kup#p34970
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=36186&p=36772&hilit ... kup#p36772
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38213&p=38494&hilit ... kup#p38494

Reissue Horseshoe
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=41443&p=41447&hilit ... kup#p41447

High-gain vs. Horseshoe
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26591&p=26591&hilit ... kup#p26591

I see a C64 in each color, a black C64S, a natural C64S, and backup FG and MG C64 basses "just in case". I wouldn't call that hoarding! To each his own. I like all mine different, but that's just me. Next on my list is a C64S.

aceonbass wrote: Ricks hold more of their value than many basses, but C64's aren't going up in value from when they were new...

I beg to differ, sir. In 2003 I bought my 4001C64S for $1600. If I listed it in an open ebay auction tomorrow, I think we would find that it's value has indeed gone up from when it was new.

I'll give ya $1620!

gearhed289 wrote:I'll give ya $1620!

And there you have it. Case closed. The value of the 4001C64 has gone up from when it was new.

Some other 4001C64 threads to educate and entertain.

Side note. If you want to view one of the best pics on the planet of three 4005 basses, check out the link I've identified below.

4001C64 & 1964 RM1999 Shape Evaluation
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=386341

4001C64 General Opinions, Evaluations, & Comparisons (second link down has one of the best pics on the planet of three 4005 basses – check it out!)
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=76695&p=76695&hilit=4001c64#p76695
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=131273&p=131273&hil ... 64#p131273

Pickup cover removal – does it change the tone?
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=91075&p=91075&hilit=4001c64#p91075

4001C64 - The Headstock Debate
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=212881&p=212881&hil ... 64#p212881

rickaddict wrote:

aceonbass wrote: Ricks hold more of their value than many basses, but C64's aren't going up in value from when they were new...

I beg to differ, sir. In 2003 I bought my 4001C64S for $1600. If I listed it in an open ebay auction tomorrow, I think we would find that it's value has indeed gone up from when it was new.

$1,600.00 !!!

I was napping that year.

rickenbrother wrote:

aceonbass wrote: Ricks hold more of their value than many basses, but C64's aren't going up in value from when they were new. I think there's a distinction to be made between holding onto and hording.

Who can tell what they will be worth in 10 years? It was about 8 years ago when you could buy a 4002 for $800. Maybe less. Hoarding would would insinuate that the collector would be making it difficult other potential buyers to purchase one. There are several C64 and C64S models new and used, up for sale.

You got that right!

If anyone's in the market for a 4001C64 or C64S…

Wildwood Guitars has four at the moment.
http://wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/ric/

North Coast Music has two.
http://www.voxshowroom.com/northcoast/s ... /index.htm

Chicago Music has a bunch.
http://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/cat ... kenbacker/

There’s about seven on ebay
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid ... Categories

And a dozen or so on gbase.com
http://www.voxshowroom.com/northcoast/s ... /index.htm

Oh, and if you’re looking for a 4003, Willcutt Guitars has eleven! Plus a C64S!!
http://www.willcuttguitars.com/_catalog ... ker_Basses

Get 'em while they're available & hot!!

Ten years from now you'll be happy you did!!

johnallg wrote:Nice post and basses. Very interesting about the headstock thicknesses. Any tonal differences you can attribute to this? Heft/authority of notes?

Thanks.

No difference in tone that I can hear. But the same applies with respect to the zero fret on the C64S.

Ric N. Backer wrote:
If anyone's in the market for a 4001C64 or C64S…

Garrr! I could have gone all day without seeing the 4005 they have for sale at Chicago Music!
Hmmm, maybe if I sell my wife's 2nd car...

gearhed289 wrote:I see a C64 in each color, a black C64S, a natural C64S, and backup FG and MG C64 basses "just in case". I wouldn't call that hoarding! To each his own. I like all mine different, but that's just me. Next on my list is a C64S.

What a great thing to "hoard".
Some folks hoard old newspapers.
And worthless geegaws to which they apply sentimental value.

Several threads that shed additional light on the beloved 4001C64 & C64S. m Some have really neat photos too.

Photos/comparison of Paul’s bass and the C64S
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=66083

Early (Jan 2004 & May 2005) C64 discussion
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=42485
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=112934