godber wrote:Like the musical genius tag isn't true 100% all the time (there are some serious lapses in quality), the total-nice-guy or total-nasty-guy is also not true. He became a peacenik after being a violent teddy boy, he became a doting father after being an absent one, he became a husband after being an abuser. A person starts somewhere and ends somewhere, as long as the trajectory is upwards we can call it development. Lennon is not unique in his social upbringing or his violent responses to them. I know several people who have tread the same flawed path, but they didn't write Strawberry Fields. He was special. It's not justifying it, it just is.
The gurning cruelty is in a period context, Lennon devoured The Goons. At school we used to call each other names based on what was the most awful affliction - spastic, thalidomide etc. they probably still do. We laugh most at the things that frighten us.
Like any religion, Lennon is a "thing" where we can pick and choose the bits we like or don't like and he's not here to argue with it - and that still makes me feel sad.
Well said, I couldn't agree more!
For those interested in Beatles and merch -page 513 of Norman's "John Lennon: the Life" is about just that. Brian shoving contracts under their noses, the Beatles signing them without reading.
Re: John Lennon: Computer Salesman
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:53 am
by simer4001
jingle_jangle wrote:Again, back in the 1960s, licensing was in its infancy, and lots was done by handshake. I suspect that this is where Brian (and many others, I'm sure) shortchanged himself and his clients by letting emotions get in the way of business.
No doubt The Beatles were screwed over when it came to licensing, which is why we don't see McCartney's name on a limited edition Rickenbacker 4001.
Re: John Lennon: Computer Salesman
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:51 pm
by johnnysain
simer4001 wrote:
jingle_jangle wrote:....why we don't see McCartney's name on a limited edition Rickenbacker 4001.
If Yoko were his business consultant there would be one,....and a Signature Hofner too.
Re: John Lennon: Computer Salesman
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:32 am
by brammy
I mean, c'mon....look at how often he made fun of the mentally retarded:
That is extremely uncool.
Perhaps.... but also funny.
Re: John Lennon: Computer Salesman
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:20 am
by winston
Please keep this thread on track with the original post. Let's not wander into other areas of discussion that may be offensive to some of our members.
I am sure that if John were alive today he would not be particularly proud of his impression of people with a handicap.
Slagging Yoko has become a sport here for some of our membership, but make no mistake that it has become a weary, hackneyed subject since there is little fertile land left to plough on the subject of her management of John's estate and his memory. Whether you or I believe she deserves some criticism is quite another matter. But let's not keep repeating the same old tired mantra.
Simply put, our forum is not to be used to malign or slander any individual and that includes Yoko.
In this case rules 3 and 4 apply in part:
3. Posts shall not be rude, offensive or nonsensical.
4. Posts shall not show apparent disrespect for others, including RIC and its employees
Re: John Lennon: Computer Salesman
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:16 am
by simer4001
Although his impression is not cool, especially in todays PC environment, I always thought that impression and other stage behavior was almost a like a nervous tick.
As for Yoko, whether you agree or disagree with her methods, (and I mostly disagree) she has done anything and everything to keep John's legacy in the front of our minds and in the back of our wallets.
Re: John Lennon: Computer Salesman
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:08 pm
by JakeK
Here, dudes and dudettes, is the master list of all the Beatles' memorabelia made throughout 1964-2000:
You realize, Jerry, that now you have to post every page of The Beatles vs The Thing here on the RRF!
Re: John Lennon: Computer Salesman
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:58 am
by electrofaro
walker wrote:You realize, Jerry, that now you have to post every page of The Beatles vs The Thing here on the RRF!
+1
Re: John Lennon: Computer Salesman
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:17 pm
by shamustwin
walker wrote:You realize, Jerry, that now you have to post every page of The Beatles vs The Thing here on the RRF!
Ha!
Long time since I've looked at it, but IIRC, the Thing passes them in a hallway, and that's the extent of it, one or two panels.
Re: John Lennon: Computer Salesman
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:43 am
by ccollette
Surprised Apple Computer hasn't used this type of advertising.
Re: John Lennon: Computer Salesman
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:58 pm
by tnelson
sounds more like Noel Gallager to me, I was mad that they used Revolution in a Nike commercial 20 years ago, I remember George Harrison being against it, I think Jacko had the rights.
you can blame the Lennon estate for these newer commercials, make me sick, CHEAP
