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Re: 4005 EVER A ROMO ???

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:18 am
by T.A.R.
Beautiful Tony!

Re: 4005 EVER A ROMO ???

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:21 am
by opticnerve
Thanks Ted. Yup, it's a real looker!

It is an Italian export...like all of the of the F hole basses that I know of...probably from the same batch of guitars sent there.

I'm thinking that the 4005's that were shipped to Rose Morris in England had the slash sound holes...otherwise

we'd be seeing them (f hole models) pop up there...no? Other than The Fad bass, which supposedly was acquired in England, I've

never heard of another in England. Also, I checked the register & all 4005's that are listed in England have the slash holes.

Re: 4005 EVER A ROMO ???

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:38 am
by opticnerve
Another interesting bit, of all the '60s 4005's in the registry (whether overseas or not) that have the original silver cases, none are badged like mine is.

Re: 4005 EVER A ROMO ???

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:44 pm
by Ivan3000
opticnerve wrote:Ha ha...that's right Ivan, Archieglo!

Oh, btw I own the 360 with the f hole...
Whats the story on that? I like it alot!

Re: 4005 EVER A ROMO ???

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:56 am
by doctorwho
opticnerve wrote:Ha ha...that's right Ivan, Archieglo!

Oh, btw I own the 360 with the f hole...
That is such a cool guitar, Tony! :)

Re: 4005 EVER A ROMO ???

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:17 pm
by Ivan3000
Imagine a 360 New Style with no binding, a dot neck and an F hole! Fireglo.
EDIT: I specified the type of 360 I was talking about.

Re: 4005 EVER A ROMO ???

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:02 am
by opticnerve
IvanMunoz wrote:
opticnerve wrote:Ha ha...that's right Ivan, Archieglo!

Oh, btw I own the 360 with the f hole...
Whats the story on that? I like it alot!
This is one of those new style w/ f hole Italian export models that were converted from 12 to 6 strings. The headstock routes were filled with black plastic inserts. The serial # GB 754...February 1967. Not much is known about these enigmatic guitars. I believe that conventional theory goes something like this...the guitars were shipped at a time when 12 string demand was low. They probably sat unsold for a couple of years in the shop, then were converted to 6 strings by the Italian dealer. There are a handful known to exist. When the guitar left the Ric factory, it was fitted with an R tailpiece...during the conversion, an accent vibrato was added. All other examples that I've seen have the Accent vibrato. Also, there are no roller saddles...it has standard 6 string aluminum saddles. I read in another post that the guitar store that these instrument was supposedly sold from originally still exists, Dragani in Pescara, Italy

Here are a couple more pics...

Re: 4005 EVER A ROMO ???

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:14 am
by sloop_john_b
SO cool. We need to have a gathering one of these days Tony! I suppose I could just ship you another Les Paul. :lol:

Re: 4005 EVER A ROMO ???

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:55 pm
by Ivan3000
Thats such a sweet guitar! Nice investigation on it too!

Re: 4005 EVER A ROMO ???

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:23 pm
by elisha wiesner
It sure is sweet. I love to se one of those in person someday.

Re: 4005 EVER A ROMO ???

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:25 pm
by elisha wiesner
I should mention that the 4005 is probably my favorite Ric bass. I play in a band with a guy who has a '67 in jetglow. It doesn't have these crazy f holes though. Such a sweet bass.

Re: 4005 EVER A ROMO ???

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:29 pm
by Ivan3000
elisha wiesner wrote:I should mention that the 4005 is probably my favorite Ric bass. I play in a band with a guy who has a '67 in jetglow. It doesn't have these crazy f holes though. Such a sweet bass.
Its it a New Style (Rounded top) or is it a WB (Binding on both sides) If its a WB, then your friend has a seriously rare instrument. A new style is still awesome. There are only two 4005WB's in jetglo known. A '68 and a '67 (belonging to our own Jeff Scott)
I bet those inlays look great on it too! :mrgreen:

Re: 4005 EVER A ROMO ???

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:23 pm
by jps
IvanMunoz wrote:a '67 (belonging to our own Jeff Scott)
Not any more. :wink:

Re: 4005 EVER A ROMO ???

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:30 pm
by elisha wiesner
It's a new style. He's had it since the mid 80's and it's rad. Here's a pic from a show in Milwaukee last spring.

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Re: 4005 EVER A ROMO ???

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:31 pm
by bassduke49
jps wrote:
IvanMunoz wrote:a '67 (belonging to our own Jeff Scott)
Not any more. :wink:
GASP! Did you sell of your "signature" bass, Jeff? I just can't imagine you without it! :shock: