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Re: '87 Rose Morris 1993 Question.

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:00 pm
by tvking
From the Eriksson website previously mentioned:

"In 1987, there was a district manager at Sam Ash Music Stores who was an afficionado of Rickenbackers, and a fan of these particular models, known as "Jimmy D.". Of course, the model 1997 had been reissued, reproducing the most popular Rose-Morris model, but he wanted more. After contacting Shrilly Swanson at Rickenbacker, Sam Ash put in an order for some very special Vintage Reissues. At that time, Rickenbacker was building instruments to custom order on a limited basis, something they do not do anymore, sadly.

They ordered reissues of the model 1993 12-string. And to boot, they ordered some six-string versions as well. The difference between the reissue 1997 and the reissue model 1993 6-string are slight; the 1993 carries an R tailpiece, and the body is bound. The 12-string is essentially identical to the original 1993. The one difference, again, is the R tail in place of the trapeze used on most originals."

Re: '87 Rose Morris 1993 Question.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:13 am
by k43rover
tvking wrote:From the Eriksson website previously mentioned:

"They ordered reissues of the model 1993 12-string. And to boot, they ordered some six-string versions as well. The difference between the reissue 1997 and the reissue model 1993 6-string are slight; the 1993 carries an R tailpiece, and the body is bound. The 12-string is essentially identical to the original 1993. The one difference, again, is the R tail in place of the trapeze used on most originals."
The first batches of model 1993 UK exports sent to Rose Morris in early/mid 1964 all used the trapeze tailpiece; a little later on they switched to the R tailpiece (most probably late '64) and by 1965 the R was the standard specification. So if the factory were ever to make a more accurate 1993 reissue either a trapeze or R tailpiece would be 100% correct versus "original" specs depending on which year of production you wanted to replicate (they only made original Rose Morris export 12 strings in 1964/5). If a C series type 1993 reissue does ever see the light of day, it would be even better if they offered buyers the choice of trapeze or R! 8)

Re: '87 Rose Morris 1993 Question.

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:22 pm
by Clifton
This is the one I want, even though it's been pointed out on another thread that's it's not technically a 1993. I don't care! The color and appearance of the guitar are great!

Re: '87 Rose Morris 1993 Question.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:29 pm
by simer4001
Here is my 2013 1993/12 :D

Re: '87 Rose Morris 1993 Question.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:42 pm
by JakeK
What's the story on that one, Brian?

Re: '87 Rose Morris 1993 Question.

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:05 am
by simer4001
JakeK wrote:What's the story on that one, Brian?
You know. :D

Re: '87 Rose Morris 1993 Question.

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:11 am
by collin
simer4001 wrote:
JakeK wrote:What's the story on that one, Brian?
You know. :D
Yeah.... but we don't! :)

(1997 RI conversion?)


Looks great, whatever it is! 8)

Re: '87 Rose Morris 1993 Question.

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:55 am
by jps
collin wrote:
simer4001 wrote:
JakeK wrote:What's the story on that one, Brian?
You know. :D
Yeah.... but we don't! :)

(1997 RI conversion?)


Looks great, whatever it is! 8)
Does this have anything to do with a certain guitar that befell a certain fate, Jake? :wink: :? 8)

Re: '87 Rose Morris 1993 Question.

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:02 am
by krick
I know but I'm not telling. :wink:

Looks great Brian!

Re: '87 Rose Morris 1993 Question.

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:08 pm
by simer4001
krick wrote:I know but I'm not telling. :wink:

Looks great Brian!
:D

Re: '87 Rose Morris 1993 Question.

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:24 am
by k43rover
simer4001 wrote:Here is my 2013 1993/12 :D

Looks fantastic Brian. :D And nice to see a correctly shaped f-hole on a "2013" guitar :lol:

However, in the interests of historical accuracy, it should be noted that a "1993 reissue" would have to have a single mono jackplate - this guitar is most definitely a 360/12S Old Style :wink:

Re: '87 Rose Morris 1993 Question.

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:38 am
by leftybass
tvking wrote:Here are a few shots of the lefty 1993. It seems that my photography lights want to bring out the red in the color, but it's actually brown in hue. It's not a perfect guitar, but still very clean for 26 year- old piece.

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That's great..! :D

Re: '87 Rose Morris 1993 Question.

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:09 pm
by collin
k43rover wrote:
simer4001 wrote:Here is my 2013 1993/12 :D

And nice to see a correctly shaped f-hole on a "2013" guitar :lol:

Ah, but it's a V64 (not a 2013). Nice work! 8)

Re: '87 Rose Morris 1993 Question.

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:02 am
by simer4001
collin wrote:
k43rover wrote:
simer4001 wrote:Here is my 2013 1993/12 :D

And nice to see a correctly shaped f-hole on a "2013" guitar :lol:

Ah, but it's a V64 (not a 2013). Nice work! 8)
Colin wins!!!

Re: '87 Rose Morris 1993 Question.

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:30 pm
by scotty
is that a V641993 Brian :wink: ...What ever it is it looks great.Using that term is kinda like Jasons conversion to the 366V64 or is it a V64366 :lol: Who knows!