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Re: You Can't Use A Rickenbacker For.....

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:35 pm
by CanOpener
jps wrote:
farace wrote:Let me ask a related question: understanding that bass in general can be tough to record, I've read that Rics can be particularly difficult. Let's say we're in a quality studio with a competent (and not lazy) engineer. Is there something about a Ric that complicates the recording process?
None at all in experience recording various different Rick basses over the years. It may very well come down to the engineer on session.

This is my old '98 4001V63 with a scatterwound toaster and the RI HS PU with bent up shoes (the second prototype of mine), TI Jazz Rounds, into an Avalon U5 to console/recorder.

Cool jam session track.. I like it.

It sounds a lot like the '90's band Ozric Tentacles..

Re: You Can't Use A Rickenbacker For.....

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:45 pm
by jps
That was at a gig in Baltimore; there were several RRF members there to cheer us on! :D

After just looking at some photos from that gig, I realized I was mistaken about the bass used! :oops: It was one of the two '73 4001 basses I had at the time, a July FG, and a March MG (I still have that one, the FG 4001 is with a good friend of mine, now). Both had their hi-gains in the bridge pickup location, and both had TI Jazz Rounds on them. I wanted to hear what tonal differences there were in the finish color, the Grover Slimline tuning keys vs. Hipshot Ultralites, and between FWI and small inlays. :mrgreen:
Photograph Copyright SAW 2008 All rights reserved
Photograph Copyright SAW 2008 All rights reserved
The EV RE20 mic was used for the PA, IIRC, not shown is the U5 on the floor for the recording feed.

The FG 4001 is in the Rickenbacker stand.

Re: You Can't Use A Rickenbacker For.....

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:48 am
by cheyenne
Cant play Jazz on a Rick. Give this a listen, see if you can guess the bass player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrnEHA04l4g

Re: You Can't Use A Rickenbacker For.....

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:51 pm
by woodyng
cheyenne wrote:Cant play Jazz on a Rick. Give this a listen, see if you can guess the bass player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrnEHA04l4g
Used to have this on vinyl.
Can't remember,but sounds like AW on drums?

Re: You Can't Use A Rickenbacker For.....

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:57 pm
by cheyenne
Yeah, I believe it was Squire, Alan White, and maybe even Tony Kaye on the keys.

Re: You Can't Use A Rickenbacker For.....

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:57 pm
by iiipopes
farace wrote:Let me ask a related question: understanding that bass in general can be tough to record, I've read that Rics can be particularly difficult. Let's say we're in a quality studio with a competent (and not lazy) engineer. Is there something about a Ric that complicates the recording process?
My 4002 records exceptionally well.

Re: You Can't Use A Rickenbacker For.....

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:58 pm
by Ashgray
iiipopes wrote:
farace wrote:Let me ask a related question: understanding that bass in general can be tough to record, I've read that Rics can be particularly difficult. Let's say we're in a quality studio with a competent (and not lazy) engineer. Is there something about a Ric that complicates the recording process?
My 4002 records exceptionally well.
+1, never better, no EQ required!

Ash

Re: You Can't Use A Rickenbacker For.....

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:33 pm
by edski
cheyenne wrote:Cant play Jazz on a Rick. Give this a listen, see if you can guess the bass player.
I think it would have been obvious even if I did not see the comments. What year was this done?

Thanks for posting this! :D

Re: You Can't Use A Rickenbacker For.....

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:59 am
by Hotzenplotz
Now You have to be strong!:

- Well guys, there really is a situation (and not only one!) You can not use a Rickernbacker for: e.g. playing a Fender.



IMHO these "experts" have absolutely no clue about music history of the last 50 years.

Re: You Can't Use A Rickenbacker For.....

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:33 am
by thisismusicinc
I have only played rickenbacker since I bought my first in 1999, with a few exceptions when I haven't had one of my own within reach. Rickenbackers work for everything I do. Different variations of rock and pop. Never had any complains, at least not to my face. :)

Re: You Can't Use A Rickenbacker For.....

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 10:24 pm
by Kiddwad57
It seems like most blues folks prefer a Fender and jazzers want a string double bass. It's okay, they're usually good people who just have their expectations. It's nice to play with musicians who are more open though, and there are a lot of them too.

Re: You Can't Use A Rickenbacker For.....

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:14 pm
by RobW
thisismusicinc wrote:I have only played rickenbacker since I bought my first in 1999, with a few exceptions when I haven't had one of my own within reach. Rickenbackers work for everything I do. Different variations of rock and pop. Never had any complains, at least not to my face. :)
Absolutely, it's a great gigging bass when you have 30 cover songs each with different basses and all the different tones. You can easily select the full range of tone from soft and dark with finger-style and neck pickup, up to super-bright on the bridge pickup with plectrum.

About using the Rick in place of the Jazz, I found you can run your effects loop through a compressor and get close to the same tone. I added compression from just the neck pickup and TI-Jazz flats, and I think managed to get similar to Joe Osborn's Jazz tone here, anyway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUpGBa51JGA