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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2000 10:58 am
by Tim_Fletcher
Also, John had just one guitar, the 325, until 10 September when he and George got their J160E's at Rushworths. That was probably the point at which he arranged to have the 325 re-finished, as he had another guitar to use during it's absence.

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2000 11:11 am
by admin
Tim: Excellent point! September 10, 1962 is a special day in Bealtes' history. Their sound would have been very different without the J160E's.

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2001 7:48 pm
by fatrat
I read that John had the guy that made Burns Guitars in london refinish it....He just wanted black, and thats all it was, George had the Black Gretsch Duo-jet so that might have had a little to do with it..... lucky for you people he didnt pick Pink or baby **** yellow, John was the type that would have done it too, if he knew everyone 35 years later would be setting around debating this...he would have got a real laugh at all these goofs getting **** colored Rickenbackers.
FATRAT

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2001 8:10 pm
by admin
Fatrat: It has been established that Jim Burns did not do the work, but rather, arranged to have the work done through a subcontractor. That this is what happened has been confirmed by Burns Company. This man is believed to be Mr. Derek Adams who is apparently still alive and living in England somewhere. I have been trying to speak with him for quite a while now but as yet no luck.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2001 2:30 am
by fatrat
it would be interesting to track the guy down and see if there was a repair or just that he wanted a black guitar???
the guitar is back natural, so it should be easy to find out if it had any repairs???
why did someone put a white guard on it???
did Lennon do this???
FATRAT

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2001 11:20 am
by anon
Fatrat: Check this site and vox talks for all your 325 needs. Each of these subjects, both Lennon and vintage 325's have been discussed to death.
Enough talk! I want my 325C!!!!!

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2001 10:58 pm
by Tedster
Didn't one of his original Ricks get stolen? I seem to remember reading that somewhere...

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2001 3:14 pm
by Daniel_Pérez
No, it was said that the 58 325 had been stolen, but that's not true

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2001 7:39 am
by Tim_Fletcher
Didn't his second 360/12 go missing ?

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2001 9:27 am
by Tim__Fletcher
Sorry, I was thinking of George's 360/12.

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2001 7:12 pm
by ghj
lennon's gibson acoustic/electric was stolen but replaced

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2001 8:47 am
by admin
There is an update to Baby's In Black posted today.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2001 12:07 pm
by rick12dr
Peter, this info is pretty cool....

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2001 2:50 pm
by admin
Thanks Dr. I continue to be amazed at the limited amount of information with regard to this question. Fortunately the net has enabled a pooling of many resources. I am hopeful that this question and many others will be answered in our lifetime. If we don't get the answers it won't be because we didn't give it a good go.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2001 3:48 am
by admin
There is an update of Baby's In Black today providing additional information regarding modifications made to John Lennon's 1958 Model 325 by Burns London in 1964.