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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:10 am
by marc61
Yeah, I know I can withdraw my bid.My feeling is during the week the Ric police will remove it if it's definitivly a fake. Maybe some of you guys can ask some questions as I don't want to be the only pain to this guy. I've contacted him three times already.
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:52 pm
by wints
O.K...I asked and received the pics I asked for today. Nice guy. It,s a genuine horseshoe as far as I can make out, with the baseplate markings and original bobbin. The routs extend into the body a little where the toaster would normally be. I think it,s highly unlikely the body is a fake. Hard to put an exact date on it, but that neck will be a fantastic player...If anyone wants the pics please e mail me.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:47 am
by jaymi
Why don't you post the pix?
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:32 am
by marc61
Check'em out:

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:36 am
by marc61
More:

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:48 am
by rickfan60
Those saw cuts at the end of the neck are not unusual for early 4000 series basses. I have one where the cuts come within a 1/4 of an inch of the pickup surround. The tailpiece is obviously wrong. The pickup appears to have a 70's high gain bobbin. The surround appears to be old but the pickup itself is not vintage. I have never seen an older 4000 sans pickguard before. Did Rickenbacker minimize the control route like that?
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:23 am
by jaymi
Yes, my 4000 is just like that.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:23 am
by wints
Thanks for posting Marc, I was waiting for my tux to come back from the cleaners....
It,s not easy to see if the bobbin has a lip on it or not. It does to me...or am I looking for one!!! My 64 with the large screws that are not painted and what looks like a faint line that runs down the middle of the bobbin looks similar.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:42 am
by jwr2
the original wires would have been cloth insulated ... not plastic ...
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:04 pm
by marc61
I hate to e-mail this guy again, but if the pots are original, wouldn't they be dated?
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:58 pm
by nbvbn
is the pickup real? yes/no
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:28 pm
by wints
He says the pots aren,t original Marc, but I,ll e mail him for a few specifics.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:01 pm
by wints
Just received a very quick reply that the bobbin does have the lip on the top and bottom and therefore should be original. With that being original, I can,t believe the body,s a fake. This is in all probability a genuine 60,s 4000.
My liability waiver will be posted shortly :-}
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:18 pm
by rickfan60
Now that I look at it a second time. Yes, the bobbin does have the right shape and the pole do appear to be screws and not mushrooms.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:00 am
by marc61
Jeff, how could you bid on this? it only has four strings?>)