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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:49 am
by squirebass
I believe that Chris Squire used his 21 fretter for at least one track of "The Fish". If you play all the parts of that tune(from the Fragile album), you'll know what I'm talking about... Ilan, I don't believe any of the 4002 models were 21 fret, those basses came later, and I think the 21 fret basses were limited to '70-'71 like John Simmons posted above...
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:55 am
by ilan
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:44 pm
by jps
All the 4002s I have seen are 21 fret!
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:57 pm
by ken_j
Page 211 in the Smith book states that "the (4002)features listed for the 1981 catalog: ... Twenty one frets on a 33 1/2 inch scale..." Although there is a pic on the same page of a 4002 prototype at the Rick musuem that has 20 frets. It looks like a curly maple 4001 to me. Obviously it changed by the time it got to production.
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:51 pm
by jps
That prototye really is a 4001/3, not what the 4002 became, which is a 21 fret bass.
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:02 pm
by squirebass
Well, Its been too long since I looked at my Rickenbacker books, especiallly the Smith book. I stand corrected! I used to lust after one of them, after finding one in a store brand new in like '79 or '80, but these days they are so hard to find AND so expensive that I just fergot... I recently bought a 350v63 in Monty Brown, and I've been playing WAY too much geetar lately. its affecting my brain!!!
I stand by my comment about "The Fish" and that was done too early to have been on a 4002....
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:15 pm
by rickfan60
I have a '79 4002 with 21 frets. I believe they all had 21.

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:50 pm
by squirebass
Ted,
I'll trade ya my 21 fretter for yourn!!
That is a beauty, and much like the one I referred to above that I saw in a music store back in the day... Ebony fretboard on her, too, isn't that right?
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:21 pm
by rickfan60
Yep, I have had her since '81. She hung in a guitar store in Chicago for nearly a year before I was able to bring her home. Some day I will put the original tailpiece back on her. I still have it.
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:26 pm
by thx1955
Nice Ted ... btw, the boookmatched oak on that door behind is also really nice !!!