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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:59 am
by admin
Joe and John: In the balance, it seems to me that Rickenbacker has gone about as far as they can with the 360/12C63. I don't think that we can expect that all pots, wiring, guard material and the like to stay the same over 40 years. Times change and in some cases the newer materials are far better. It still looks like a beauty to me Joe.
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:09 am
by johnhall
Joe, you're out to lunch here. The tuners ARE nickel. George's DOES have a long pickup magnet slots in the neck position, as did all early production 12 stringers. (Most pickups were later replaced when neck-strengthening blocks were added due to the well known neck set problem.) The plexi is NOT our standard stock but chosen to be as close to the semi-opaque style on the originals, bearing in mind you simply can't buy the original material today. George's has vinyl wire insulation rather than cloth as this was right in the transition period. I'll concede the capacitor issue- there's just nothing like it produced today although I actually did obtain a quote for a true replica. Due to the cost and quantity requirement, it would have raised the cost of the guitars considerably and any way you slice it, capacitance is capacitance.
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:47 am
by leftybass
Peter, I agree with you all the way, the new 12 is a beaut...I hope to try one out in the near future, when they circulate a bit more...
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:49 am
by joepee
Breaking news. John Hall does homework!
Great post Mr. Hall.
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:54 pm
by tonewerks
As I said "one weird thing -- The neck pick up is a flat pole-( Expected) but they drilled holes in the body as if it were to be a long pole -" I didn't say it was right or wrong I just said it seemed weird to me -- I agree capacitance is capacitance to -
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:18 pm
by goldenoldie
John Hall,
Since the 360/12c63 doesn't have the 'neck strengthening blocks' - should we expect the 'well-known neck set problems' eventually? If so, do you recommend tuning down a half-step on these to relieve tension?
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:19 pm
by johnhall
No. The instrument is designed to remain at full pitch and tension.
The neck to body pocket is quite different that the originals. You can't see it, just like the modern truss rod system, but it's that way to eliminate any potential problems.
Joe, your sentence was "It gets an 8 for not being 100% historically accurate (non-nickel tuners, non-cloth loom with blue caps, modern plexi, neck pup position drilled for long poles)". Given that 4 of your 5 statements are simply incorrect, doesn't that move our score up closer to 9.6?
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:25 pm
by tonewerks
lol ok, I'll split the difference with you :^}
Just curious how much tension will a neck hold before it snaps and were does it break ?
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:47 pm
by stuart
It snaps just below the 5th vertebrae

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Awesome guitar. I'd give it a 15 out of 10, and I wont even have mine for atleast a few months.

What a stunning instrument.
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:58 pm
by qmoder
Nice. I like the Vintage case too. Wish I had gotten one with my Ric now.
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:56 pm
by BobKat
John, I can't wait to see one up close. It looks like you have outdone yourselves.
Now you have to make one in "dead man's rips" color.
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:36 am
by bill_yantz
John, is the fretboard radius the same? Is there any difference to the string spacing on this one relative to the newer ones.
Thanks in advance for the answers. I can't wait to see and play one in person.
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:30 am
by woody
Hold on Bob. First John needs to produce a run of these in fireglo with dot fret markers and an "f" hole. Any hope of that happening, Mr. Hall?
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:53 am
by 8mileshigh
Add my name to the long list.........

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:30 am
by doctorwho
An in-stock 360/12c63 has shown up on GuitarBase:
http://www.gbase.com/Stores/Gear/GearDetails.aspx?Item=809385
It's at Rudy's Music in New York City.
http://www.rudysmusic.com/