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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:43 am
by wints
Ted, lovely to see a 63 here at last, and a 4002 too. One of my favourites. They are both very cool. How long have you had the 63? Care to give a little background where and when you picked that beauty up...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:23 am
by atomic_punk
Ted, glad you came out and showed us all of those beauties! The 4080 is stunning, and the 4002....well, you don't see those around these parts too often! Beautiful collection, and you will soon see that we don't ever mind seeing pictures of ANY Rick! Thanks for sharing!

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:45 am
by bosco64
Ted, very, very impressive. If you ever want to part with your Blackstar... :-) Seriously, that 1963 4001 has to be one of the cleanest ones that I have ever seen. Fantastic collection!

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:27 am
by jnbass
Chris-

left side numb-dizziness, slurring...

put an asprin under your toungue and call the ER!

Billy Squire-stroke it!

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:40 am
by rictified
Welcome Ted, I was hoping to see you put those beautiful basses in here, I told you we'd drool, haha!
Vito, don't feel bad look at my pictures, now I'm the second worst not the worst. Around June or July last year, was bobampeg then.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:13 am
by ghs_boomer
Whats the going price of a 4080 these days?
Do they still produce them?

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:39 am
by rictified
They stopped making them a number of years ago, (mid 80's?) very expensive.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 1:07 pm
by rickfan60
I have had the 63' since last August. All I know about it is that the previous owner lived in Las Vegas. It has a few odd features that I can't explain. The pickguard is not original and there are 2 fewer screwholes in the body than there are holes in the pickguard. The missing holes are at the bottom (bass standing on end) of the control cavity. Also, the screws on the bottom of the TRC are fake. There are no screw holes in the headstock to accomodate them. The TRC is held in place by one at the tip and another in the middle. I thought the missing ones might be under the nut (not original) but they are not. In 63' much of the production was not as batch oriented as it is today. They were not cutting out pickguards by the dozens. The Smith production numbers (probably inaccurate) show only 43 4001's made in 63' and only 29 of them were FG. The hardware was probably made as needed. I imagine that there are no two exactly alike.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 1:17 pm
by rickfan60
I don't have pics of my other Ricks yet. My only guitar is a 1980 460 in FG and I have two other 4001's including the one on eBay. The other is the one I bought from Gary Clauson back in December. It was apparently improperly trussed at some point and the neck split open like a flower. I am going to make it a new pair of truss rods soon. It is still pretty from the front and it sounds good. It has become more or less a laboratory for me.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:18 pm
by wints
Ted, that sounds about right for an early 60,s bass. No two are probably the same. The screw holding the truss rod cover in the middle is correct. The pickguard is interesting. The F/G bass on page 67 of the Smith book shows a pickguard without a finger rest, while the M/G on page 202 has one. Are you sure it,s not original Ted??...You never know with the old basses. It wouldn,t surprise me if they never got round to drilling the holes in the body...Ditto the TRC. Does the bass have the two holes underneath the guard where the finger rest would normally be? Was this one of the e-bay,s 63,s last year Ted? Love to see some close ups of the body including the areas mentioned...

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:02 pm
by rickfan60
The missing screw holes in the body suggest that it is not original. Also, the neck pickup does not align properly with the strings. Notice that the E string sits a bit off of the sweet spot. I have to have a pickguard made for it that accomodates the body as it is. I just can't bring my self to drill any holes in it.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:09 pm
by rickfan60
Here is a closer shot of the front. The quality of the pic sucks a bit though....
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:18 pm
by rickfan60
There are no holes in the body where the finger rest would have been. Also notice the differences between this one and the one on page 202 in the Smith book. Notice where the lower body half meet the neck? They are not the same. Also, the chrome surround for the horse shoe is similar but clearly not the same. There is what appears to be a 63' on page 108 that does not have a finger rest but the surround is more like mine. That same bass appears on page 67.

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:53 am
by rickaddict
Sweet collection, Ted. So...which one is the gold truss rod cover for?

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:42 am
by teeder
Hello All!

This is the one that got me back into the "Rick" ownership club! It's a '93 V63.Image