When will new Beatles on Capitol be relesed???

glass_onion · Post by **glass_onion** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 3:49 pm

i just got this box set the other day, love the stereo versions of the songs from hard days night album, but i was just wondering has anyone noticed how much reverb shes a woman and i feel fine have? i think its on beatles 65 or something.

oreca · Post by **oreca** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 4:01 pm

That's correct Harry, all the songs feature an extra layer of reverb.
It's how Capitol wanted the records to sound for the american market, and it's for reasons like this that this set was released.
Basicly for the US Beatles fans which hadn't heard the songs like they remembered them from 40 years ago.

Personally I can enjoy both mixes

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 4:16 pm

Actually back then mono records outsold stereos a lot I believe. Monos were a buck cheaper and many people didn't have stereos back then during the early 60's, they had hifi's. The stereo mixes became more important during the 70's when many people had stereos. A lot of the stereo records you see are not from the 60's, but the 70's and 80's. Another reason they are drenched in reverb is because they are not true stereo, they are basically two mono mixes: basic tracks and overdubs and sound very dry and separate if heard without reverb. I like them myself because I like the reverb.

glass_onion · Post by **glass_onion** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 7:11 pm

so do i bob, it was really weird to hear 'em like that, especially shes a woman, id never heard alot of those older songs in stereo, i gotta say comparing the hard days night tracks from stereo to mono, i think the stereo sounds way better.

grinch · Post by **grinch** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:21 pm

"The only gripe I have about this series is that it's called 'The Capitol Albums'. If it had been called 'The Capitol Years', then perhaps it could have included 'A Hard Day's Night' and 'Help!'."

"A Hard Day's Night" was not included because it was not a Capitol release. In fact, that album was released under the United Artists label. "Help", however, was a Capitol release.

Vol. 2 should be like this:

The Early Beatles
Beatles VI
Help! Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
Rubber Soul

Vol. 3
Yesterday...and Today
Revolver
Hey Jude

However, you've still got more room for the compiliation albums like Rarities and Hollywood Bowl, etc. Also, in 1980, the Hard Day's Night soundtrack was released by Capitol because they obtained the rights. So, technically, that would be a Capitol Album post-1980.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:31 pm

A good number of my original issue vinyl albums from the Beatles years on Capitol were in "Duophonic" sound. The liner notes said "playable on both stereo and monophonic phonographs". I'm talking Beatles and Beach Boys here, but I'm sure they weren't the only ones.

I also have a first-issue of "Surfin' USA" (Beach Boys, 1964) which says "Capitol Full Dimensional Stereo".

Duophonic was a sort of re-processed mono which gave a phantom second channel when played on a stereo "phonograph" (or did it say "record player"?). Anyway, Duophonic sounds awful on today's equipment and went the way of the dinosaur after a couple of years.

webhead · Post by **webhead** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:16 pm

I think somewhere down the line the US version of A Hard Day's Night will see the light of Day. Even though it was a UA release in the 60's, it was re-released thru Capitol in the 80's. And I have this gut feeling that we'll be seeing mono versions of Sgt Pepper and Mystery Tour as they were released in the 60's. If we see a mono version of the White Album, I'll really be in heaven... This ought to drive down the prices on those original LP issues..

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:22 am

I've seen "duophonic" done in two different ways:
1. one bassy channel and one trebly channel, this is the more common way it was done.
2. one normal channel and one 180 degrees out of phase with the normal channel, this way really sounds bad.
I've never seen a Beatles duophonic but have seen a lot of Beachboys duophonic. One of the reasons given for that was that Brian Wilson is deaf in one ear and can only hear mono.
I also remember a time during the late 60's when fake stereo records had to say that it was not stereo as they were releasing all sorts of stuff and calling it stereo, for example I have a late 60's "Buddy Holly story" which I ordered brand new and it's fake stereo but says just stereo on it.
I think technically the early Beatle albums are considered real stereo because they have two different channels.

revolver323 · Post by **revolver323** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:48 am

Don't forget that back in the '60s, although stereo systems existed, radio was all mono, so most of the music of that era was mixed to sound good in a car. In fact, when my band recorded back then our engineer kept a 4" speaker set up in the booth, and he would mix on the studio monitors, then listen through the 4" speaker and adjust until he was pleased. "If it sounds good in a car, it'll sound good anywhere," he'd say. I don't remember radio being in stereo until ABC Love premiered (in Pittsburgh, at least) in 1968. Their tagline was "What would you call a radio station that played nothing but Beatles and Stones? ABC LOVE!" And that's what they did for a few months -- Beatles & Stones only. The birth of AOR radio.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:00 am

We had WSRS (Worcester's Stereo Radio Station) from when I was a kid, it was all classical as all FM was before 1968. FM stereo first came on the air in 1959-1960. I actually liked the sound in the old cars, lots of bass.