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I'm waiting for a Ringo Tour... cheaper, more various and definitely enjoyable music from an old Beatle too!

Yeah I want to see him too, he had Jack Bruce in his line up a few years ago and I've been kicking myself since that I missed it.

Well 700 including the tickets and the trip to Boston and a night's stay...
Might be more, might be less, it's an estimate.

Tickets are getting pretty pricey as we get closer and closer to the concert date.

>> Not a fan myself. the only good thing he did in the Beatles was "I've just seen a face" <<

Is this sarcasm? It's so hard to tell when it's been typed.

Where do I start?

I was always a Lennon fan, but over the last five years I've started leaning towards Paul.

We're talking about Macca here! Yesterday, For No One, She's Leaving home, I Will, Blackbird, I'll Follow the Sun, not to mention his solo catalogue!

The man is a brilliant pop songwriter. Even his bombs (Temporary Secretary) are annoyingly catchy!

Ram, Band on the Run, Venus and Mars. How can he help but be arrogant? He's the Beethoven of the twentieth century!

I agree Paul can be really annoying in interviews. Ever notice that all his bits in the Anthology were backdropped by him driving a boat, or infront of the stage all lit up. Unlike George and Ringo who just sat on a chair in the garden. Macca is an artist and a showman! He wants to give his audience something interesting to look at.

I know he cracked the whip, replaced Ringo's drum takes, gave George grief. But every band needs that kind of guy to be successful, or else they'd just sit around getting stoned.

He's still releasing records, touring with the best backing band he's had in over a decade, making large "anonymous" donations to local charities (I know this for a fact). It's not the bloody Who or Stones bashing through the same setlist they toured twenty years ago.

Not to mention when I saw him for the first time during his last visit to Toronto the man made me (and many other men) cry like a baby. If I knew if was going to be that religious an experience I would have dropped $250 for a seat on the floor.

OK, Dave. Whatever...

(Beethoven of the 20th Century?)

Wow. But hey, ya gotta love the passion of Dave!
I tend to agree with Paul (Wilczynski, that is).

And I've been cracking up at work for the past couple of days at all the variations on "When I was 12, I badly...".

Good stuff.

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Ok Paul, maybe I'm going out on a limb here, but this follows up a conversation I had with a friend and his fiance recently. She couldn't understand why he had dropped £200 to see McCartney.

He suggested that Bach, Handel, Beethoven all excelled at making pop music. These composers have and will continue to stand the test of time.

Whose to say the Beatles won't?

I'm not suggesting that Lennon or McCartney's writing skills are on par with these composers, but I feel their work is just as important and relevant to music history as Beethoven's.

Their music continues to speak to new generations (I for instance was born in 1972). I can't think of any popular musicians today that will be able to say that!

My friend asked his fiance if she would pay £200 to see Beethoven. Of course she said yes.

Unfortunately none of us will be around in two hundred years to find out if I'm right!

Well, Dave, that's a good deal different from "Macca is the Beethoven of the 20th Century."

I can't disagree with your reasoning on that last one. It's hard to compare the two, and I was wondering on what exactly you were basing the comparisons.

But, really, even comparing two classical composers from different times is chalk and cheese.

I plan on living at least another 200 with some luck. I'll let you know.

And I'll be waving my fist at you from beyond the grave!

The Beatles have been consistantly marketed to the masses for over 40 years. I'm sure that has contributed to their longevity. The music is great but without the marketing, starting with Brian. They may have just been a great local band. But what will happen when those that keep the flame alive run out of gas? Will the marketeers have a plan of proselytism to keep the interest up and the money flowing. A cult of Beatle? Elvis's estate is worth more now almost 30 years after his death than when he died. Why?, he's turned into a religion and for many Graceland is a freakin shrine!. There's money to be made off Elvis yet. I appreciate the Beatles artistic / craftsmanship they put into their music from a listening and playing guitar point of view. As long as money can be had from the Beatles franchise they will be around a long time. Historians of the 20th century will note them as a part of tulmultous 60's. They certainly impacted my life not in a cult way but as a part of my formative years and memories of the era as events of my life unfolded. Will they be as significant as the composers of the classics? I guess it depends on the way Rock & Roll is regarded in the centuries to come.

That's a hard one that has been debated now for many years. The lyrics will someday be dated, but will the melodies be remembered as being classics or not? I'm talking when the whole Beatle mystic has been left far behind which I'm sure will be after most of us are long gone.

Trying to find a particular John Lennon quote that I read one day. Can't locate it but to paraphrase, it went something like this...
" I'd take 1 George over 2 Pauls any day".

haha! must have been right after the breakup.