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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:57 pm
by highway_star
Back top the original topic - I tried out my Bass Trainer tonight and was pleased. It sounds much clearer than my Pandora/Sony Discman setup. Plus, the tempo feature sounds less garbled than the Pandora. It's nice to have the trainer and CD in one package, although I like the Pandora's clip-on feature. I'll probably keep the Pandora for quiet practicing and use the Bass Trainer for copying lick from CDs.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:34 am
by jnbass
$20 for AC adapter?!!

damn!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:45 pm
by ken_swearingen
Got mine online it doesnt work,my bass cuts on and off changed cord and basses its the machine....

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:00 pm
by heavypet
Chris, I got to this thread late, but I'm glad you were pointed to the cd/bass balancing controls.

And I'm with you with regards to trying out new gear: If you have to resort to the manual to do something as simple as get the balance right then there's a big problem with the user interface design of the unit.

I too just got the beast, and I like it. And it has a stupid interface. Tascam equipment normally doesn't suffer from "The Roland Symptom", but even after you add unfriendly UI into the equation, I think it's still a worthwhile purchase for the money.

What it does well:
* Provides a headphone amp for you to practice bass through
* Provides a CD-player
* Allows you to change CD-audio pitch in whole tones or microtones or both (ever tried to play along with "Lovely Rita" in standard tuning?)
* Allows you to change the CD-audio tempo without affecting the pitch (sure, you get more and more artifacts the more radical the departure from normal, but it's a practice tool, not a recording preamp.)
* Allows you to change both of the above simultaneously
* Allows you to apply a highpass filter on the CD audio, letting you hear your bass more or less in place of that on the CD. (and that feature's on a nice discrete pushbutton for easy switch back and forth)

Those are the features I've made good use of.

What sucks:
* Not an intuitive UI: need to check out the manual a bit and try things out to get the hang of it (not so bad after that)
* Although it has "effects" built in, they all suck. I managed to get a mild room reverb but it still annoys me a bit.
* I'd read about the need for an AC adapter before I purchased. The place I bought from had a deal going on at the time in which they both undercut the going price by $10 or $20 USD, _and_ threw in an adapter. To be honest, I don't think this thing should be expected to last very long on battery: it spins that disc constantly so that your practice isn't constantly interrupted by lengthy seek times. It should be an AC-only device. Get the adapter.

What I'd Like to see:
* better UI
* fewer "toys" (get rid of the effects section, in favor of a more friendly UI if possible)
* a CD reader that can read MP3 CDs as well as CD-Audio

All in all, a useful device at the price I think.

my buck two ninety eight,
-G

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:04 pm
by heavypet
Oh yeah, i also made decent use of the A-->B loop function to practice a section over and over. A good feature that I wish was a bit easier to use.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:13 pm
by heavypet
Sorry, I should add that I have the Mk.II, not the Mk.I.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:16 pm
by learning_curve
Bought one a few months ago, only way I can figure out some of Squires stuff! I have found all kinds of little mistakes I have been making on songs. I don't read music so this thing is just the ticket for me.
Worth every penny.

Randy

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:16 am
by highway_star
I've been pleased with mine so far. I've only scratched the surface of its capabilities, but it's revealed parts I had a hard time figuring out before. I'll be doing "YYZ" before you know it (yeah, right).

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:32 am
by ken_swearingen
The one part I improvise on in YYZ is the second solo even slowed down its a garbled mess, sounds good fast though.