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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:16 am
by ken_swearingen
Instead of changing the whole guard just sand it straight right there and go over it with like 800 grit wet sand paper and buff, ALL DONE.[ITS THAT SIMPLE]
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:03 pm
by henry5
Ken, what I meant about the headstock on the 4003 is that it isn't QUITE what a 60s one is, or at least the ones I've seen aren't. My V63 headstock (a 98) wasn't right, it was too chunky, which is also the case with the recent 4003 'stocks I've seen. My CS headstock (91) is just about perfect....and you could easily tell the difference between the two when I had them both. The CS was more elegant, although of similar dimensions.
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:04 pm
by lars
Ok!
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:05 pm
by lars
I mean thanks Ken!
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:17 pm
by ken_swearingen
I see what you guys mean but we ought to thank the lord the new bases don't resemble the eighty's fat horned basses and [puny]little headstock.I better duck LOL
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:51 pm
by henny
Yeah, you bloomin better do....!
We all know they're the best-sounding, anyway, Ken... Squire's "puny" 70' 21-fret 4001 whizzed all over his RM for sound...
The only reason he didn't start playing it full-time was because the RM was his first Ric.. his 'bab..
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:26 pm
by rickon
So I guess we could dispense with aesthetics altogether and so now there's no big difference between say a Jazz and a 4003?
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:28 pm
by nattiep
Pfft. I'd would have played the 21 fretter.. I NEED a 21st fret on my 4001. (I tend to go that high sometimes. Like I play the keyboard solo from "The Trees" on my bass high up.. the lack of a 21st fret ruins it.) When I had my 5 string Dean.. it had 24 frets. I took advantage of that all the time.
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:34 pm
by nattiep
I think a Jazz bass is a beautiful instrument. Much better than it's ugly one pick up counterpart. A Geddy Lee style J bass is eye candy to me.
A 4003.. less comfy then a jazz, but the shape and sound.. you can't compare. I would take a 4003 over a Jazz.
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:42 pm
by throw_this_away
I 100% agree with you on both the jazz and ric Nate!!!
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:01 pm
by henny
Much better than it's ugly one pick up counterpart.
If you're judging a Precision purely on looks, poor you.

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:09 pm
by nattiep
Hahaha. I just have a thing against P basses.. I don't know why.. it could be that "I hate it so much because I can't have one" or I'm just anti one pickup. One pickup doesn't have enough tone options fer me. I would take a J bass over a P bass any day though. That's why I'm going to build a J bass instead of a P bass.
And yes, I think the P pickup is butt ugly.
4001/4003 > J bass > P bass. But that's just me.
I have yet to try a 4004.
Thank you, John.
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:25 pm
by ken_swearingen
ah yes, but now I too have a 70 21 fret 4001 with its "puny" headstock.LOL
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:14 pm
by henry5
Wish I did too

! I could use that extra fret too...
It's funny, I think P-basses look better than Js. With a few notable exceptions J-basses even LOOK nasal to me, if that's possible

! All in the eye of the beholder....
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:03 am
by ilan
It's not funny at all, Shaun, like you, I think that in additional to sounding much better, a P bass also looks much nicer than a Jazz. A classic design. I played P basses for more than 20 years, since I could afford to buy a real one (1976 was my first). I don't like the offset body styling of the J. Appearance is important. That's why I pay attention to small details like the hump that grew beneath the switch in the 4003 pickguard. Once I noticed it, I can't not see it.