Old Guys and New Music - closed ears???

shamustwin · Post by **shamustwin** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:31 am

Thanks gents.

I Hide - when Tim brought it to me, he was strumming an F major to an E major.

It sounded rather plain to me so I changed the F major to an F6 (?) 1-1, 2-3, 3-open, 4-2, and the E to a 7th; then appegio'd it, having just bought Chris Cornell's CD and it opened with something appeggio'd. The 12 string just strums the same notes an octave higher and does a nice pan across the speakers.

I think I work harder on Tim's songs than my own, and many parts he gets compliments on are parts I've contributed. A point of friction between us cause he doesn't feel things like that are creditable contributions.

Hello Hello was an old demo that I fixed up in pro tools. Drummer was new and didn't know it, so without a click track, he was way off. Still the rhythm wavers, as it does on the others from that demo session that we included on the CD.

Thanks again for the kind words, and yes, the 4003 sounds killer on these tunes. We just had a bass player friend of ours say how clear and punchy the bass was sounding at a recent gig, and asked what was different. He was looking at it all night, duh!

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:01 am

Gah, that should have been Fmaj7, not Fm7. Nice info there Jerry, thanks!

shamustwin · Post by **shamustwin** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:16 am

F6, no?

Notes are f, c, d, a.

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:34 am

I'm talking about the arpeggios that come in at about :18 - F, C, E, G. I was wrong, it's not a major 7, thanks to that open G.

This is an odd chord. I'm thinking the name would be something like Fmaj7add9. It doesn't seem to be anything inverted, because the tonal center is unmistakeably F, even with a C major arpeggio (C-E-G) in there.

As a rule of thumb, a chord can be missing it's 5th and still be the same chord. This one is missing a 3rd, but inexplicably, it still rings true of some fort of F major chord.

Regardless, it's an arpeggio that's very pleasing to the ear, even if it isn't an oft-used chord.

You're right Jerry, F-A-C-D would be F6, but where does that chord come in?

shamustwin · Post by **shamustwin** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:33 am

I'm embarrassed, I'm not sure what I'm playing there, I'll have to pick up a guitar.

Come to think of it, there is an open G. So your arpeggio scenario is right, John.

In my defense, I worked til 2am this morning!
Started again at 7:30.