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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:21 am
by winston
Will the real Eric stand up. Wow! The short account of your experience has made for a great read. Eric I am very very impressed.
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:13 pm
by bassduke49
I'm an aircraft nut primarily, Rick bass nut secondary, so I do appreciate the lines of the YF-23. I was pulling for it in the competition in the early '90s. At least Lockheed improved the lines of the production Raptor over its prototype, but I still like the "Black Widow II" better. There's a bronze sculpture at the main entrance of the Pima County Air Museum in Tucson depicting three F-23s in formation. If only.
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:06 pm
by johnallg
I really like the lines of the SR-71 Blackbird. I've stood under one for almost an hour drinking in all the sexy curves. And to think it was all designed using a slapstick.
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:48 pm
by elysrand
Humor is slapstick, slide rules are slipsticks
Bet you did that malaprop on purpose, John

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:25 pm
by johnallg
Uhhh, yeah, right.....
Actually, I was fortunate never having to use one. And thanks for the correction, seriously.
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:50 am
by eric_b
Yeah,Paul,same for me,I love me my flying machines!Agreed,the production F-22 looks much better than the YF did..We called it the Pelican..
Hey John,it's a good thing that Blackbird you stood under didn't have any gas in it,those things leaked like crazy until they were brought up to "operating temperature" (M3+ @80,000ft) If a Blackbird on the ground doesn't leak,then it's empty.
One of the jets at Blackbird Park in Palmdale is actually an A-12..
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:07 am
by bassduke49
So's the one in the Seattle Museum of Flight. For those unfamiliar, the A-12 was the first version of what have become known as "Blackbirds." It was a single seater, produced for the CIA and flown by them operationally before the Air Force's two-seat SR-71 version. There was also a super interceptor version developed, but not put into production past a few prototypes; the YF-12A.
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:40 am
by wmthor
.... the production F-22 looks much better than the YF did..We called it the Pelican.
Eric, this is the
Pelican (HH-3F) that I remember, just a little different from your Pelican.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:56 pm
by johnallg
Our SR-71 here at the Air Zoo is a two seater SR-71B trainer.
http://www.airzoo.org/aircraft/blackbird/
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:21 pm
by bassduke49
Right. The trainers had the rear cockpit elevated to give the instructor a good view (students are usually in the front seat in trainers).
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:46 am
by markbass99
I sat in the cockpit of the SR-71 exhibit at the Seattle Museum of Flight, very cool.
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:56 pm
by johnallg
I'll bet - I wanted to climb up the little ladder and take a look around, but didn't want to get thrown out and banned for life!

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:31 pm
by charlyg
So in captivity(zoo), do they feed them MIGS?
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:00 pm
by bassduke49
Reminds me of a quip from Bob Hope on one of his famous USO tours in SE Asia:
"Ah, the 555th, 'Triple Nickle,' world's largest distributor of MiG parts."
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:49 pm
by johnallg
They do have a MiG-21 they could feed it....