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cool idea indeedy

...says you lightly strum to tune ....what if when
you strum, a string breaks ...does it detect that or will
it end up winding up the length of the string ?
...hopefully they have checks in the unit...would
be ****** if it went defective at a gig and all the strings
unwound...or worse ....kept tightening all of them until
they break ...or the neck breaks~~~~

I need he guitar to be able to play for me. How far are we from that?

This is like the TV dinner of guitars.

It's really nothing new.Mark Miller and Jan Strock
basically did the same thing with Accutune a few years back.It didn't sell.As I recall they tried to sell it to Fender,Gibson ect.. but no one had any intrest.Id like to dig out my old Orcad files and see if the schematics are similar since the patent
has expired.

I need he guitar to be able to play for me. How far are we from that?

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Pretty defensive way to think. There's no skill involved in a guitar being in tune. Being in tune, and playing a song for you are NOT the same. The fact that the whole "the next one will play for me" thing has come up so often seems quite ridiculous to me, and frankly, makes me wonder what kind of world that person is living in... Does your car have more than 2 gears? do you have an air conditioner anywhere in your life? do you pay with gold coins or debit?

Progress is just that... progress. It dosen't make you less of a musician to have your guitar tuned for you. dosen't make you less of a roofer to use a nailgun rather than a hammer. Of all the boards I've frequented, I think this one has the most negativity towards progress in the domaine of electric guitars. be it auto-tuning, or gumby headstocks.

I think Marc was just being humorous.

Not every new idea is a great idea or a necessary idea. Some ideas are suspect from the beginning, others grow and are able to integrate. Lots of us thought that we'd turn into Gary Numan (not that that's a terrible thing) when MIDI became popular, but secretly, or not secretly use it today. Who knows, this thing may evolve into capabilities for pedal steel effects, etc.

And you may crack wisely about my Gumby head, but don't nobody make fun of my Gumby headstocks.

I need he guitar to be able to play for me. How far are we from that?

This is like the TV dinner of guitars.
LOL

Yeah, I was joking...

but what I was getting to was kinda like...when we were kids,having a TV dinner was a treat, and took little preparation from our parents...going out to McDonald's was an event. We'd get dressed up for that...Nowadays, society is getting obese from all the fatty prepared things we can get.

This guitar seems to be a step in that direction for musicians. Many bands are on tour play with tapes, we know about all the lip-syncing. I saw a band on Linkin' Park's Projekt Revolution with a girl bassist who had this cool look, but obviously was not even playing.

btw - the guitar playing for me line was referring to how poorly I play the guitar... I can tune it though:>)

I agree.I had a typed response that highlighted your very remark but I'm tired.So I'm typing more after I wiped it out.Makes sense dosent it?I'd rather tune to the band and go then tune to myself and play alone.

Ok, I thought it was much more serious than that. I tihnk this technology is fantastic as long as it's taken seriously as a tool, and not as another smoke and mirrors thing to hide behind. It would totally eliminate having to switch guitars (for the bigger stars) so that one gets tuned while the other gets played type of thing.

playing with tapes, and not playing at all, speaks about muscianship to me. they aren'T doing what they are paid to do, and what we want them to do. I don't pay to hear bands tune.

My kid's been dragging me to see a lot of bands lately(and I love it) so I notice things.

My impression is they're changing guitars for tonal reasons, and maybe for drop tunings, but they all seem to have a stomp pedal to tune between songs. I know it's not an automatic tuner, but this just seems like something else that can malfunction during a gig.

Seems like the perfect invention for the Ramones though....I remember them playing 2.5 hours without stopping, and the only changes seemed to be for tuned guitars. Ahhh..would have taken away from the mystique...

This is, on first glance to most people, a step in a positive direction. After all, anything that would help us to tune accurately and quickly so that we stay in tune, is a good thing, right?

I'd be willing to bet that the great majority of people who are reading this thread use some sort of electronic tuning gizmo, whether it be a feed-through stomp box or one of those pocket-sized Korgs; whatever. These are invaluable in tuning all guitars--12ers especially. They're fairly accurate, and they're relatively cheap. But they don't do the dirty for you.

And that's where I draw the line. Almost a grand for a device to twist the tuning keys? That requires holes to be drilled in my headstock? I mean, where's the real value here? When you stop and think about it, it's all about first impulses.

There isn't any value in the long run. And that's why I predict a short life for this overwrought, flash-in-the-pan, Rube Goldberg device.

And what if something goes wrong and it snaps your strings trying to tune to an octave? Or then runs amok and starts trying to wrap up your vocalist around the spindle and then goes after the sound guy?

Oh the humanity!

Okay, sorry, maybe I should have used better examples of bad things.

I like un-useless inventions, also known as Chindogu.

Almost a grand for a device to twist the tuning keys?


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It's all about practicality. How many people can tune 6 strings in 3 seconds to perfect pitch without anyone hearing you do it? then 3 seconds later be tuned DGCGCD?

I see this as aimed towards the gigging musicians. the ones who don't want to break the flow and stop to tune the guitar between songs. that's not what people paid to see. We have microphones and speakers that project our voices for us. why don't we get off our lazy asses and learn to project?

I see it as nothing more than a convenience. nothing more than a car instead of a bicycle.

I see this also as a gift from musicians to other band members who have a little trouble with tuning in general and especially after the sixth beer.

I think I might start wearing the second Chindogu example on stage.