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Re: Pronunciation issue
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:20 am
by kiramdear
kennyhowes wrote:kiramdear wrote:About half of America pronounces my first name as if it's a large Egyptian city.
Isn't it "KEE-ra?"
That's right, Kenny, like the commander major alien lady

Re: Pronunciation issue
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:21 am
by jimk
Oh yes, and I'm another one who can weigh in on the mispronunciation of one's last name. If some one calls and asks for a guy whose last name rhymes with "house" I tell the caller that no one by that name lives here.
If the caller asks for some one whose last name rhymes with "drowsy" then I say "I am he." It's what you get for being descended from people who adopted a German last name, who could not even speak the language with any facility, only so they could be thought of as urbane, sophisticated, and well educated.
JimK
Re: Pronunciation issue
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:45 am
by kennyhowes
jimk wrote:Oh yes, and I'm another one who can weigh in on the mispronunciation of one's last name.
You'd be surprised at the mutilations my last name gets on a regular basis.
Re: Pronunciation issue
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:10 pm
by jps
kennyhowes wrote:There are Beatle interviews around (including Harrison on our hold music, if you time it right; and Lennon, from a '70s radio interview) where they say "Backer." Like I said, I've never heard a Brit say it wrong.
Next time I call you guys I'll ask to just be placed on hold!

Re: Pronunciation issue
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:11 pm
by cjj
kennyhowes wrote:jimk wrote:Oh yes, and I'm another one who can weigh in on the mispronunciation of one's last name.
You'd be surprised at the mutilations my last name gets on a regular basis.
Yeah, mine too. People always want to put extra "e"s into it. Then there's the proper pronunciation of the "J" at the beginning, which should be more like a "Y" sound.
Well, at least mine's easier than a kid I grew up with who had the last name of Grezgorczyk. That was always fun with a new teacher at the beginning of the year...
Re: Pronunciation issue
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:09 pm
by ram
Re: Pronunciation issue
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:28 am
by kiramdear
It's a quirky English language thing, and the French have some of it too. Most other languages are fairly consistent phonetically, lacking silent letters by and large and sticking to one way of pronouncing a given spelling. Consistent meaning if one can read a word one can be sure of its pronunciation.
Re: Pronunciation issue
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:36 am
by blueflamerick
I'll always say BOCK. BACK just sounds weird to me.
Very few people pronounce my last name correctly. Even fewer people spell my first name correctly, even when it's in front of their faces. My high school diploma even has my first name spelled incorrectly!
Re: Pronunciation issue
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:39 am
by jingle_jangle
My last name took me till age 7 to pronounce correctly. And there are two ways--the Polish and the Americanized.
Re: Pronunciation issue
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:19 pm
by jimk
jingle_jangle wrote:My last name took me till age 7 to pronounce correctly. And there are two ways--the Polish and the Americanized.
Aw shoot Paul, Polish can't be all that hard. Why all those little kids in Gdansk learn to speak it pretty quickly, I'm told.
JimK
Re: Pronunciation issue
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:49 pm
by johnhall
JakeK wrote:Since Pete calls them BACKers, it makes me wonder what Macca, Harrison and Lennon called them. I also wonder what Entwistle called them...
Well, I can answer at least one of those questions, and head off a few more:
http://www.rickenbacker.com/audio/rickenbacker.mp3
While we're add it, let's remember that the man and his name is of SWISS origin, not GERMAN. Similar perhaps, but in the same category as calling a Scotsman "ENGLISH".
The original GERMAN name was Reichenbacher which is pronounced with the "C" to be almost silent, sort of "reish-en-baher". However the family split, some relocating to Switzerland and changing the name to "Rickenbacher" happened in the time of Martin Luther.
Changing the spelling to Rickenbacker as Adolph and Eddie elected to do makes a very different word in German or Swiss, more like "rik-en-baker".
Those of you who can read German . . . er, Schweizerdeutsch . . . can get a bit more info here:
http://www.migrationsmuseum.ch/index.php?navid=6
Re: Pronunciation issue
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:15 pm
by sloop_john_b
John, thanks for posting that little audio clip! Whose voice is the last one there? Johnny Marr maybe?
Re: Pronunciation issue
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:08 pm
by scoobster28
I pronounce it "Bock," usually because I think it sounds more sophisticated that way. And because that is how I first heard it, and old habits are hard to break.
On a side note, how many of you pronounce the 325 series guitars as "three twenty-five" as opposed to "three two five." Or "four thousand and one" as opposed to "4001."
Re: Pronunciation issue
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:43 pm
by kiramdear
scoobster28 wrote:On a side note, how many of you pronounce the 325 series guitars as "three twenty-five" as opposed to "three two five." Or "four thousand and one" as opposed to "4001."
Guilty on both counts.

Re: Pronunciation issue
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:14 pm
by rikk
Anybody want a shot at pronouncing my last name? I've heard it all.