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Re: Palm muting with chrome bridge guard?

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:51 am
by trosse
admin wrote:I confess that I like the aesthetics of the cover which may also be a consideration for some.

After much discussion it looks like you have this one covered guys. :lol:
Yes right... my offer to Erik is serĂ­ous - not just a joke. I do have one from 1997 and he can have free.

Re: Palm muting with chrome bridge guard?

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:34 pm
by Grey
Thanks but my 1980 Rick still has the original cover on it. :)

Re: Palm muting with chrome bridge guard?

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:48 pm
by electrofaro
trosse wrote:If you are a golfer, a race biker, a formula 1 pilot - or another type of sportsman with clubs or frames or seats - their requisites are made to your specs... Not the other way around. You are not supposed to break arms or legs to suit your tool. When it comes to guitars you set up the guitar to your needs - not your body and techniques to the guitar (except of course if the nature of the instrument makes it necessecary like going from six to 12 strings etc.).
Somehow this reasoning is humbug. The sportsmantypes you mention all have strict rules about their "tools" that mean NO tampering and specs that are preset and not the sportman's own desired specs.

Besides, they learn how to use their tool within the rules - see the Ric with bridge cover as a rule and learn to use it. Then you don't have to take your tool apart anymore as your spec is inability or unwillingsness to learn to palm mute with a bridge cover on!

Just 2 Eurocents...

Re: Palm muting with chrome bridge guard?

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 11:08 am
by trosse
Wildberry wrote:
trosse wrote:If you are a golfer, a race biker, a formula 1 pilot - or another type of sportsman with clubs or frames or seats - their requisites are made to your specs... Not the other way around. You are not supposed to break arms or legs to suit your tool. When it comes to guitars you set up the guitar to your needs - not your body and techniques to the guitar (except of course if the nature of the instrument makes it necessecary like going from six to 12 strings etc.).
Somehow this reasoning is humbug. The sportsmantypes you mention all have strict rules about their "tools" that mean NO tampering and specs that are preset and not the sportman's own desired specs.

Besides, they learn how to use their tool within the rules - see the Ric with bridge cover as a rule and learn to use it. Then you don't have to take your tool apart anymore as your spec is inability or unwillingsness to learn to palm mute with a bridge cover on!

Just 2 Eurocents...
Golfers for instance have their clubs and irons made to their exact personal specs - weight and length - and bicycle racers get their bodies measured carefully out and have their bicycle frames manufactured to match their bodies. But still of course within the original design asnd within the rules. I have been a racebiker myself and had my Principia race bike designed and set up to my exact specs - which means alternative tube length and angles - and the manufacturer often keeps these records on their computers and NC equipment. So your statement that the sportsmantypes I mentioned all have strict rules about their "tools" that mean NO tampering and specs that are preset ..etc... is absolutely incorrect. Custom buil sports equipment is simply a fact.

Re: Palm muting with chrome bridge guard?

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 11:28 am
by datru
Wow, my simple little question refuses to die.

Here's my opinion: using the guard just because you like the look is a little silly. The guitar is a tool and should not get in the way of a player's technique. HOWEVER, if you like doing it that way it's fine with me. If it doesn't get in your way then carry on.

So now I have another question. Which people are the better human beings: people who use the guard or those who don't?

Will the guard users be raptured tomorrow, or the other guys?

:lol:

Re: Palm muting with chrome bridge guard?

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:25 pm
by admin
David: Sometimes the most interesting questions are those that we consider simple.

As with most things crafted by humankind there is a balance between the aesthetic and the functional and it is sometimes difficult to separate the more important of the two.

With regard to your new question, ascertaining who are the better people at this point is likely mute. :)

Re: Palm muting with chrome bridge guard?

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:47 pm
by jingle_jangle
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Palm muting with chrome bridge guard?

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:52 pm
by Ric_MEL
and back to the simple question..

When I got my 620/6.. I found the bridge guard seemed to keep my right hand about 1 foot above the strings.. COULD not palm mute without moving my whole right hand forward.. < which didn't work > ..

and with the bridge guard on.. couldn't regulate how much I palm muted.. was either not muted.. or just muffled.

so bam: took the pick guard off.. and everything felt more like I was used to ..

then here come the irrational part.. the Guitar looked wrong.. < to me > ... and we all know how compulsive many many are here about everything RIC... paint.. finishes. .how many frets.. binding.. tuners..

so I put it back on.. may not make any sense.. but : it looks "right" with it on..

and now I'm finding.. I'm learning how to correctly vary palm muting.. with the bridge guard on..

so it is doable... < at least for me . >

.. now: whether someone would CHOOSE to have to learn to adjust to the thing.. to defer to the LOOKS .. is the subjective part.

OK.. .. RICS owners can be a tad quirky.. :) ( in a good way ! )






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Re: Palm muting with chrome bridge guard?

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:40 pm
by jingle_jangle
Ric_MEL wrote: so bam: took the pick guard off.. and everything felt more like I was used to ..
You must have a unique picking style, hey? :twisted:

Re: Palm muting with chrome bridge guard?

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:33 pm
by Ric_MEL
LOL !

oops... BRIDGE cover.. !

Re: Palm muting with chrome bridge guard?

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:42 pm
by Grey
It's like the pickguard on or off debate for Les Pauls. :lol:
P.S people with bridge covers are better human beings

Re: Palm muting with chrome bridge guard?

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 3:54 am
by trosse
datru wrote:Wow, my simple little question refuses to die.

Here's my opinion: using the guard just because you like the look is a little silly. The guitar is a tool and should not get in the way of a player's technique. HOWEVER, if you like doing it that way it's fine with me. If it doesn't get in your way then carry on.

So now I have another question. Which people are the better human beings: people who use the guard or those who don't?

Will the guard users be raptured tomorrow, or the other guys?

:lol:
Pick guard or bridge guard... there's a huge difference :D